Hi Pats, Please be aware that iDEAL is still not functional on the Dutch fundraiser page. Also, IBAN is missing.
Best, Lodewijk On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote: > > Hi Patricia, > > Thanks for telling that the iDEAL will be back soon. I don't quite > understand from your answer why you add the increased hurdle of emailing > the team for the IBAN though. Am I overlooking something? > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Patricia Pena <pp...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > >> Hi Lodewijk, >> >> Currently IDEAL is temporarily down on our pages (it went into maintenance >> mode after our annual campaign), but should be back up soon :) We know >> the importance of this method for Dutch donors and have supported this >> option since we started fundraising in the NL. We also support offline >> bank >> transfer (IBAN) and donors can get the account number with our Donor >> Services team. >> >> We had an extremely successful Fundraising campaign this year, and there >> will be some great mobile optimization coming up in the next few months, >> which will allow mobile donors to complete their donations in a much >> faster >> and easier way. >> >> Thanks! >> Pats >> >> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> >> wrote: >> >> > A while back now, the chapters were no longer allowed to fundraise, >> because >> > the Wikimedia Foundation argued they would be better able to do this. At >> > the time, this sounded somewhat reasonable. However, since then, there >> have >> > been some disturbing developments - at least for Dutch donors. >> > >> > No longer it is possible to pay electronically (iDEAL, one of the most >> > common methods is no longer supported - 'electronic banking' simply >> refers >> > you back to the credit card page) or even via regular bank transfer >> (using >> > an IBAN) in the Netherlands. The donation page >> > < >> > >> https://donate.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:FundraiserLandingPage&country=NL&uselang=en&utm_medium=spontaneous&utm_source=fr-redir&utm_campaign=spontaneous >> > > >> > only >> > allows credit card and paypal, and the 'other ways to give' simply sends >> > you to the helpdesk if you want to make a bank transfer payment. >> > >> > What is the reasoning behind this? Have bank transfers become a legal >> > swamp? Are there statistics suggesting that this method was no longer >> > required by donors? Did the European bank account somehow get >> temporarily >> > suspended? >> > >> > If it has become so hard to donate, maybe it makes more sense to send >> the >> > donors to the local chapter pages where they can actually donate in the >> > local suitable methods (in this case, Wikimedia Netherlands offers both >> > iDEAL and IBAN >> > <http://www.wikimedia.nl/pagina/doneren-aan-wikimedia-nederland>). >> > >> > One of the Dutch OTRS team members asked for elaboration, but didn't >> quite >> > get a satisfying answer. I hope this is a temporary situation, and that >> > this threshold will be removed again. It would be sad if we go through >> all >> > kind of trouble to enable long tail methods like bitcoin, but skip bank >> > transfer... >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Lodewijk >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Pats Pena | Sr. Manager, Global Operations >> Wikimedia Foundation >> office +1 (415) 839 6885 x6764 >> cell: +1 (415) 816 3349 >> fax: +1 (415) 284 9511 >> pp...@wikimedia.org >> >> *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the >> sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate. >> <https://donate.wikimedia.org/>* >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org> >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
