I see the talk page on Meta for this committee hasn't been updated since 2013. I copied James' update to the talk page. I am going to oppose there and ask anyone else interested in reverting this decision to comment on meta[1]. This needs consensus, but more so, a choice, that was never given to the larger community.
This committee can be dissolved if needed, or another one can be set up in its place. On Mon, Oct 5, 2015, Pavel Richter <m...@pavelrichter.de> wrote: > > Theo, you argue process, I argue outcome. > They faced a problem, they tackled it, they made a decission. And their > mandate? They *showed up and volunteered*. That is enough mandate in my > book. > This is a ludicrous proposition to even defend. The outcome, as you might have noticed isn't being supported or endorsed by the majority. This is not a solution, it is another problem, worse than that it is going against the grain by taking an open process and making it closed. By your logic, I can claim this new solution is a bigger problem, some of us here are objecting to it and we can tackle it by dissolving the committee? Or how about I apply the same logic to everyone donating to WMDE - recognize a problem, tackle it, communicate with the concerned parties and not even tell you about it, because I "showed up and volunteered". The whole logic here is indeed, non sense as MF-W put it. First, there is no consensus the current process is a problem. Second, if there is, James is and has been chiefly responsible for the entire process, ergo, the problem. Now, the new initiative is to give James complete control to decide things in private without discussion, deliberation or so much as a notification to the wider community. > > The revolution will not be community-approved. Actually a revolution by definition, would have to be majority/community led and hence, community-approved. What we have now is a small group of connected individuals in a clique, who make large decisions for everyone. That would be an Oligarchy, and I for one, am tired of seeing the same people make these horrendous decisions. On Mon, Oct 5, 2015, Pavel Richter <m...@pavelrichter.de> wrote: > > Hopefully not by consensus, but by a small group of people who just say: > Enough is enough). You clarified my point further. Regards Theo [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimania_Committee#Oppose _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
