The problem may simply be that the information is not coming to the attention of the people who care, as they don't know that it exists or where to find it. The normal place to put information relating to improvement of an article is on the article talk page, and that is where Wikipedians will expect to find it. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen Sent: Saturday, 21 November 2015 9:57 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues Hoi, That is indeed a problem. So far it has been lists, often well formatted lists that do not have a workflow, are not updated regularly. I have added these issues as a wishlist item to work on. [1] You have to appreciate that when a list of problematic issues is listed with over 100 items, it is no longer easy or obvious that you want to add and follow 100 talk pages.This is one of the big differences between Wikipedia think and Wikidata think. I care about a lot of data, data that is linked. Analogous to the "Kevin Bacon steps of separation" I want all items easily and obviously connected. <grin> That is another quality goal for Wikidata </grin>. Given the state of Wikipedia, most articles have an article, easy and obvious tasks like fact checking and adding sources is exactly what we are looking for for maintaining our community. Add relevance to the cocktail, we know that these facts are likely to have issues, and you appreciate why this may help us with our quality and with our community issues. Thanks, GerardM [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey#Visibility_for_quality_issues On 21 November 2015 at 07:11, Peter Southwood <peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > How are you notifying the Wikipedias/Wikipedians? Do you leave a > message on the talk page of the relevant article? > Cheers, > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen > Sent: Saturday, 21 November 2015 12:23 AM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues > > Hoi, > So far such lists have been produced for bigger Wikipedias but > essentially it is potentially an issue for any and all Wikis that have > data that may exist on Wikidata or linked through Wikidata on external > sources. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 20 November 2015 at 12:33, Peter Southwood < > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> > wrote: > > > Gerard, > > Who were you expecting would respond from the Wikipedias? > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] > > On Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen > > Sent: Friday, 20 November 2015 9:18 AM > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Research into Wikimedia content and > > communities; WikiData-l > > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues > > > > Hoi, > > At Wikidata we often find issues with data imported from a Wikipedia. > > Lists have been produced with these issues on the Wikipedia involved > > and arguably they do present issues with the quality of Wikipedia or > > Wikidata for that matter. So far hardly anything resulted from such > outreach. > > > > When Wikipedia is a black box, not communicating about with the > > outside world, at some stage the situation becomes toxic. At this > > moment there are already those at Wikidata that argue not to bother > > about Wikipedia quality because in their view, Wikipedians do not > > care > about its own quality. > > > > Arguably known issues with quality are the easiest to solve. > > > > There are many ways to approach this subject. It is indeed a quality > > issue both for Wikidata and Wikipedia. It can be seen as a research > > issue; how to deal with quality and how do such mechanisms function > > if > at all. > > > > I blogged about it.. > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > > > > > http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/11/what-kind-of-box-is-wikip > > ed ia.html _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2016.0.7227 / Virus Database: 4460/11032 - Release Date: > > 11/20/15 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7227 / Virus Database: 4460/11036 - Release Date: > 11/20/15 > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> ----- No virus found in this message. 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