this isnt about how or whats of Google its about ensuring that what we do is trustworthy
On 25 November 2015 at 08:12, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Leila Zia <le...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > > > It's worth mentioning: > > > > Dominant search engines do not rely on one source of information to > surface > > results, they get information from many sources, weigh the responses they > > get based on the trust on the sources and many other factors, and > aggregate > > to find the best answer to be shown to the user. > > > > > Have you never seen Google display gross Wikipedia vandalism?[1][2] Cases > like that make it very clear that the Wikimedia content in question entered > Google directly, without human oversight or cross-checking against other > sources. What you describe sounds good, but it didn't happen. > > If even transient vandalism passes through (the Finnish vandalism was > reportedly deleted in Wikipedia within minutes), then so can more subtle > and long-lived errors and falsehoods. > > Similarly, Bing Satori's timeline is simply made up of verbatim Wikipedia > sentences containing a numerical year. > > We know far too little about how search engines import Wikipedia and > Wikidata content, and what proportion of content is checked and how. > > > > > I just used "chicken pox" as a search query in Google, I see an > information > > box on the right-hand-side of the page about the disease, and when I > click > > on Sources I get this page > > < > > > https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/2364942?p=medical_conditions&rd=1 > > > > > ("See where we found the medical information") which shows all the > sources > > Google has used to retrieve information about chicken pox from, nothing > in > > that list starts with wiki. Of course, this is not the case for all > search > > queries, for some of them, Google still uses Wikipedia snippets. > > > > For medical queries, Google (rightly) prefers other sources, so those > queries are not presently affected. > > [1] > > https://www.seroundtable.com/google-world-series-cardinals-blunder-17587.html > [2] > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_vandalism_in_Google_infobox_from_flagged_revisions_stabilized_article_25.2.2015.png > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- GN. President Wikimedia Australia WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>