The initiative is good also to train the community how to approach the tools' development.
I think, and this is not a comment for Wikisource for it's a general comment, that a tool is not a simple piece of software running for a bunch of things. The name "tool" is correct because is something available for a use: it can used or not used. Instead a "service" is a combination of tools, processes and people. Good tools are important to build a good service but are not sufficient. The real problem is that people miss always these three aspects and in addition there is a wrong approach of programmers to build a tool with a bad planning and analysis. Several PM frameworks say that 80% of the time must be dedicated to plan, because a good planning is mandatory for a good result. The results of this survey are interesting, but this is a simple "initiation process", it means that the better evaluation must follow. So it's correct that a simple tool doesn't solve a problem. Kind regards On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andre...@gmail.com> wrote: > (splitting as per Richard request) > > > Question for the Wikisource folks: would Project Grants be a way to get > > resources for you? If you can design a project and find people with the > > right skills, that avenue might be beneficial for you. I have a software > > developer in mind who would probably like to work with you if resources > are > > available and a project has the support of the community and WMF. > > > > Pine > > Hi Pine. My personal answer to your question is: no. Because we've already > tried that, and we did barely scratch the surface of the issues. > I'm on mobile and cannot provide you details and references, but in the > past years we used both IEG and Google Summer of Code for funding > developers, and we had few successinaddressing main issues. Also, tools > that worked and were helpful are now abandoned. > What wikisource lacks is development to core software, not only external, > cool tools, which are fine but in the end don't really solve problems. > > I can elaborate further and bore you with details but, ina nutshell, we > just need commitment from people who can bring theirlines ofcode into > production. As Wikisource is formally a Wikimedia project, and provides its > tiny contribution to the mission and also to fundraising, I would expect a > commitment of this sort coming from WMF. > > Aubrey > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Wikipedia: Ilario <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ilario> Skype: valdelli Facebook: Ilario Valdelli <https://www.facebook.com/ivaldelli> Twitter: Ilario Valdelli <https://twitter.com/ilariovaldelli> Linkedin: Ilario Valdelli <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=6724469> Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
