That's most helpful, thank you both. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Pharos <pharosofalexand...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Ellie and Chris, this historical experience should be very helpful > for future discussions! > > Best, > Pharos > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Chris Schilling <cschill...@wikimedia.org > > > wrote: > > > Hey folks, > > > > Ellie has put together a summarized budget including revenue and expenses > > from Wikimania 2014 in London[1] and Wikimania 2015[2], which I've gone > > ahead and posted to the summary pages of these conferences on meta. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chris > > > > [1] <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014> > > [2] <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015> > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Itzik writes: > > > > > > > If we want to talk about the cost of Wikimania it will be great if > the > > > WMF and the local team will share the costs. > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014/Budget > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015/Budget > > > > Maybe I missed something, but it's strange that such discussion takes > > > place without a real budget breakdown. > > > > To summarize 2 huge event to "1$ million USD" does not make sense. > > > > > > Agreed 1million%. It would be important to see a rough cost > breakdown, & > > > compare that to the best-budgeted Wikimanias. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Tomasz Ganicz <polime...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > 2016-02-10 6:06 GMT+01:00 Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > FUDCons > > > > > > > > Also it is hard to compare Wikimanias with FUDCons as it is > > > > a) much smaller (usually bo more than 200 attendees) > > > > b) divided by regions - for example in 2015 there were 3 FUDCons > > > > (Argentina, India, Spain) and 2 Flocks (NY and Kraków) - so they are > > > > rather like our Iberecop or CEE meetings than the global conferences. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. Similar to regional events perhaps, not Wikimania. Still > worth > > > comparing budgets perhaps, if available. > > > > > > But I was wondering about the trend over time: whether extensive > funding > > > during the RedHat days made the events less useful, in the years after > > that > > > funding was reduced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And also Fedora developers have many potential sources of external > > > funding > > > > - mainly from IT companies which uses free software and want to apply > > for > > > > their specific needs and for whom they quite often work. > > > > > > > > > > True. But attendees to GLAM or education conferences also tend to have > > > many potential sources of funding - mainly from archives or educational > > or > > > technical companies who curate knowledge or develop education tools. > And > > we > > > have IT industry partners who are similarly willing to support > > Wikimanias. > > > Not entirely dissimilar. > > > > > > > > > > But anyway, Fedora offers scholarships for attendees, see: > > > > > > > > > > Yes, wiki conferences should as well - that part of conference funding > is > > > important. Even early Wikimanias with almost no WMF support had > > > significant scholarship pools. > > > > > > S > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Chris "Jethro" Schilling > > I JethroBT (WMF) <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:I_JethroBT_(WMF)> > > Community Organizer, Wikimedia Foundation > > <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>