I think there are more ways of supporting volunteers than just paying them cash. For instance another option could be to offer them a place to stay, food and healthcare. That is how many volunteer programs work, like workaway or woofing, and I don't see anything wrong with it.
Would it be an acceptable compromise? Regards, Micru On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:49 AM, David Goodman <dgge...@gmail.com> wrote: > Involving the foundation as a broker would corrupt the Foundation > altogether. It would in essence turn it into an advertising agency. We're > supposed to be different from Google. Google earns money by letting itself > be used as a medium for advertising. It at least hopes to achieve this by > while not being evil, and succeeds reasonably well at the compromise. > > Wikipedia fortunately does not need to earn money, as ordinary people > freely give us more than enough for our needs, and can therefore hope to > achieve the positive good of providing objective information on > encyclopedic topics that people want to read about, not information that > other organizations want people to read. We have no need to compromise. > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:15 PM, SarahSV <sarahsv.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru> > > wrote: > > > > - Possibly POV will be compromised in paid articles. > > > - Unhealthy situation within the editing community. In the debates with > > > WMF staff when we disagreed, I always felt awkward, because they were > > paid > > > arguing with me, and would do it until they convince me or I give up, > > and I > > > was doing this in my free time, and got tired very quickly. I also had > > very > > > unpleasant experiences interacting with some chapter people whose only > > goal > > > was to keep their position. They did not care about the quality, > > > efficiency, anything, only about their personal good. And if somebody > > > defends their personal good, you know, thy usually win, and the quality > > > loses. Now, imagine there is a content dispute between a user who is > paid > > > (and is afraid to lose the salary) and a user who is unpaid and have to > > do > > > the same for free - I am sure a paid user will be way more persistent. > > > > > > > > > ​Yaroslav, we already have a lot of paid editors on the English > > Wikipedia. > > Some are Wikimedians in residence, and this has always been regarded as > > okay, though I believe they're expected not to edit articles about the > > institution that employs them. > > > > But we also have a lot of paid PR editing and obvious COI problems > because > > of that, as well as the problems you highlight (e.g. the paid editor > being > > more persistent). > > > > Introducing the Foundation as a broker between organizations that want > > articles and editors who want to write them would not solve all the > > problems you highlight, but it would remove the COI aspect. So my > thinking > > was that it would be better than the current situation. > > > > Sarah​ > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > -- > David Goodman > > DGG at the enWP > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
