This classic science fiction novel comes to mind... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Canticle_for_Leibowitz
And a shout-out to User:Daniel The Monk, our resident NYC Monastapedian :) Thanks, Pharos On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 3:51 AM, Ed Saperia <edsape...@gmail.com> wrote: > A Wikimedia monastery! ^_^ > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 26 Feb 2016, at 08:39, David Cuenca Tudela <dacu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I think there are more ways of supporting volunteers than just paying > them > > cash. For instance another option could be to offer them a place to stay, > > food and healthcare. That is how many volunteer programs work, like > > workaway or woofing, and I don't see anything wrong with it. > > > > Would it be an acceptable compromise? > > > > Regards, > > Micru > > > >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:49 AM, David Goodman <dgge...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Involving the foundation as a broker would corrupt the Foundation > >> altogether. It would in essence turn it into an advertising agency. > We're > >> supposed to be different from Google. Google earns money by letting > itself > >> be used as a medium for advertising. It at least hopes to achieve this > by > >> while not being evil, and succeeds reasonably well at the compromise. > >> > >> Wikipedia fortunately does not need to earn money, as ordinary people > >> freely give us more than enough for our needs, and can therefore hope > to > >> achieve the positive good of providing objective information on > >> encyclopedic topics that people want to read about, not information that > >> other organizations want people to read. We have no need to compromise. > >> > >>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:15 PM, SarahSV <sarahsv.w...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter < > pute...@mccme.ru> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> - Possibly POV will be compromised in paid articles. > >>>> - Unhealthy situation within the editing community. In the debates > with > >>>> WMF staff when we disagreed, I always felt awkward, because they were > >>> paid > >>>> arguing with me, and would do it until they convince me or I give up, > >>> and I > >>>> was doing this in my free time, and got tired very quickly. I also had > >>> very > >>>> unpleasant experiences interacting with some chapter people whose only > >>> goal > >>>> was to keep their position. They did not care about the quality, > >>>> efficiency, anything, only about their personal good. And if somebody > >>>> defends their personal good, you know, thy usually win, and the > quality > >>>> loses. Now, imagine there is a content dispute between a user who is > >> paid > >>>> (and is afraid to lose the salary) and a user who is unpaid and have > to > >>> do > >>>> the same for free - I am sure a paid user will be way more persistent. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ​Yaroslav, we already have a lot of paid editors on the English > >>> Wikipedia. > >>> Some are Wikimedians in residence, and this has always been regarded as > >>> okay, though I believe they're expected not to edit articles about the > >>> institution that employs them. > >>> > >>> But we also have a lot of paid PR editing and obvious COI problems > >> because > >>> of that, as well as the problems you highlight (e.g. the paid editor > >> being > >>> more persistent). > >>> > >>> Introducing the Foundation as a broker between organizations that want > >>> articles and editors who want to write them would not solve all the > >>> problems you highlight, but it would remove the COI aspect. So my > >> thinking > >>> was that it would be better than the current situation. > >>> > >>> Sarah​ > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> David Goodman > >> > >> DGG at the enWP > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > -- > > Etiamsi omnes, ego non > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
