Any COI generates burocracy. After or before. Doing it before helps to avoid empty seats.
In an election is the same community to check it. If there is an appointment, there is not a preliminary extensive check. A potential COI is revealed after the appointment. Il 09 Apr 2016 12:15, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Hoi, > Really more bureaucracy? As if that does not bring its own conflict of > interest? > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 9 April 2016 at 10:20, Ilario Valdelli <valde...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > What should be noted is that a personal declaration of COI cannot be > > sufficient. Probably an evaluation of potential conflits done by a > > committee as neutral body can help the candidates to better evaluate the > > candidacy and to manage them better. > > > > Kind regards > > Il 09 Apr 2016 8:26 AM, "Anders Wennersten" <m...@anderswennersten.se> > ha > > scritto: > > > > > I, as all others, has full sympathy for Danny and find that he in his > > mail > > > made an excellent explanation on how the situation made the option to > > > resign the only reasonable way forward > > > > > > BUT this is the second community selected that has left the Board > within > > a > > > year after being appointed, and before any future election (either a > snap > > > byelection soon, or the ordinary in a years time) I believe we should > > look > > > into if anything can be learnt. And if there are things, primary in the > > > election process, that can be done to ensure the appointed community > > > selected members of the Board staying on the whole term. > > > > > > For Danny my interpretation is that he is very operational role in > > > ordinary work leads to many interaction with WMF etc and where COI > > > consideration hampers his day-to-days activities. And that his major > > > strength, "Wikidata", is hard to make use of in the Board as any > > > influencing of decision re this also puts him in a COI situation, and > > that > > > he outside this competence finds he has limited "value" for the board > > work. > > > > > > But all of these facts was known before the election (but not necessary > > > the ramification). Would a more elaborate (tedious long?) description > of > > > requirements of serving in the Board helped Danny to understand the > > > challenge before he entered his candidacy? Would some type of > > (lightweight) > > > "vetting" by the Election committee by all candidates have identified > > this > > > risk (which then could have been feedbacked to the candidate)? Should > for > > > future election the election committee not only be facilitator of the > > > election, but also help he voters in complementing the data given by > each > > > candidate by some type of comments? For example last time the > requirement > > > from the board was non western (non English natives) persons and > priority > > > for nonmale. but 2 out of 3 was just his. Could some mark on the > > candidate > > > statement made by the EC (he/she is/is not fulfilling the Board > criteria) > > > had helped? > > > > > > The setup up of a Standing Election Committee is under formation but it > > > will probably still be some month before it is established. Any changes > > in > > > the election process has to await this formation, but I believe a > > > discussion of learnings can start independently. > > > > > > Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>