Hi Nathan, Differing views about good uses of this list are fine. However, I have an optimistic view of the ideal uses and benefits of this list, which may include civil debates and a wide range of meta discussions. Having stated my views, and wishing to maintain a respectful tone, this is the last email that I intend to read or send on this thread.
Have a good evening, Pine On Jul 1, 2016 16:47, "Nathan" <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Paid editing is addressed in the WMF terms of service and is a problem that > has confronted or will confront most of the prominent projects in the > movement. An alert to an RfC regarding principles of broader import, and a > small amount of linked discussion, seems to be a perfectly reasonable use > of the list. Wikimedia-L need not be only announcements, messages of thanks > and congratulations, and grousing about etiquette or WMF internal politics. > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yes, it's a very quiet list. However, I'm an advocate of being mindful of > > scope. I've long advocated for wiki-specific discussions to happen on the > > wiki and/or mailing lists which are best suited to them rather than > > Wikimedia-l unless an issue is escalating to a meta-type discussion. This > > is one of those discussions that, from my perspective, is best suited > for a > > different venue. I'm not a list moderator though, so this is just a > > request/suggestion. > > > > Pine > > On Jul 1, 2016 16:20, "David Gerard" <dger...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Technically maybe, but wikien-l is pretty much long dead at this point. > > > > > > On 2 July 2016 at 00:14, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Tomasz, > > > > > > > > The Ombudsman Commission's scope, as I understand it, includes > > > > investigations of violations of the privacy policy under certain > > > > circumstances. So far as I know, the OC does not *create or modify* > the > > > > policies that it is tasked to enforce, much like how most police > > > > departments don't create or modify the laws that they enforce. Please > > see > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission > > > > > > > > That said, because the scope of this RfC is specific to ENWP, I > believe > > > > that the best list for an email discussion would probably be > WikiEN-l. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Pine > > > > James, > > > > > > > > The proper body to ask this question is Ombudsmen Commission. > > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2016-07-01 8:47 GMT+02:00 James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > >> Hey All > > > >> > > > >> On the English Wikipedia we are having a RfC regarding what is > allowed > > > > when > > > >> trying to address undisclosed paid promotional editing. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Harassment#Can_other_site_accounts_ever_be_linked_to > > > >> > > > >> Specifically we are discussing if this statement is allowed "Here we > > > have > > > >> someone who is buying an article on Anthony LaPine. They have > already > > > >> bought an article on HipLink and this sock created it > UserJuliecameo3 > > > who > > > >> is already blocked." > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard&oldid=679657047#Checking_Elance > > > >> > > > >> Or are no external links to other accounts allowed to be linked to > > > >> Wikipedia? > > > >> > > > >> Best > > > >> -- > > > >> James Heilman > > > >> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > > >> > > > >> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine > > > >> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > >> Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > , > > > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz > > > > http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek > > > > http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
