Honestly I cannot find pros since it's a free choice to edit without logging, so it's not up to me to find them :D if it would depend solely on me this thread would even exist ;)
Meanwhile I weight in the biggest con: the inability to use rangeblocks and an unacceptable weakening of our ability to investigate sockpuppetry and abuse. Vito 2016-11-12 22:54 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>: > While it is tempting to start with cons, I think for most of the community > members, the question will be: 'what alternatives are there to accomplish > more or less the same' with regards to fighting vandalism and sockpuppetry. > And answering that question would start with describing how we actually do > make use of this data. Sounds like a good process to go through, but this > puts more emphasis on 2). > > Lodewijk > > 2016-11-12 21:36 GMT+01:00 Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com>: > > > Point #1, with current means, will simply imply the end of > countervandalism > > with IPs. > > > > Vito > > > > 2016-11-12 21:02 GMT+01:00 Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org>: > > > > > The biggest privacy problem in Wikipedia has always been the permanent > > > public exposure of casual editors' IP addresses. > > > > > > Secondarily, we store logged-in editors' IP addresses for a limited > time, > > > exposing all editors' IP addresses to access by staff and volunteer > > > accounts which could be stolen or misused as well as to any potential > > > attacker who gains sufficient access to the database systems. > > > > > > I would like to suggest that the Wikimedia editor community, along with > > the > > > Wikimedia Foundation as steward of the software and servers, have a > > serious > > > consultation about committing to fix this: > > > > > > > > > 1) Eliminate IP address exposure for non-logged-in editors. Those > editors > > > should be either given a random, truly anonymous identifier, or > required > > to > > > create a pseudonym as a login. > > > > > > 2) Seriously think about how this will affect workflows tracking and > > > fighting vandalism, and provide tools that do not depend on public > > exposure > > > of network addresses. > > > > > > 3) Avoid public exposure or long-term logging of any other > > > location-specific or network-specific information about anonymous > users. > > > > > > 4) Consider stronger controls on storage of IP addresses in the > databases > > > and how they are secured, in the face of possible attacks through > social > > > engineering, security vulnerabilities, or state action. Think about > what > > > really needs to be stored and what types of data recovery are possible > > when > > > storing truly personal-private data in shared databases. > > > > > > > > > -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com / brion @ wikimedia.org) > > > Lead Software Architect, Wikimedia Foundation > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
