Hi Gabriel,

On Mon, 7 May 2018 14:02:44 +0100
Gabriel Thullen <gabr...@thullen.com> wrote:

> I am also a Linux advocate, and have been so for years (decades?). That
> been said, I imagine that there are still more people using Windows XP than
> there are people using Linux. Last time I checked (october 2017) it was
> something like 5% using XP and less than 1% using linux, all distros
> included. We can safely predict that virus outvreaks will be a problem for
> linux once it reaches 5% or 10% market share...
> 

Most linux viruses have never outbroke and never caused much harm. Linux can be
susceptible to other forms of malware such as worms or rootkits, but it hasyet
to exhibit a large scale virus epidemic and it isnt because it wasn't tried.
Linux is an attractive target because many servers run on it. See also
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+viruses&ia=web

Regards,

Shlomi

> Gabe
> 
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Shabab Mustafa <shabab.must...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I have been a Linux advocate for almost a decade now and from 'my past
> > experience', I can tell you have opened a topic of a huge discussion about
> > people should switch to Linux Desktops (which is off-topic here). But I
> > respectfully disagree with your statement, "anti-virus programs usually do
> > more harm than good".
> >
> > From a conservative viewpoint, some protection is still better to have than
> > no protection at all. And the example you gave here, an anti-virus
> > mistakenly classified your domain as a potential threat, makes a weaker
> > point. By a few mistakes, we cannot cancel out a million of other
> > successes. A false alarm is yet favourable than no alarm at all.
> >
> > ---
> > Shabab Mustafa
> > President
> > Wikimedia Bangladesh
> >
> > ​
> >
> > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:56 PM Shlomi Fish <shlo...@shlomifish.org> wrote:
> >  
> > > On Thu, 3 May 2018 19:27:16 -0500
> > > John Bennett <jbenn...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > >  
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Many of you may have been receiving emails in the last 24 hours
> > > > warning  
> > > you  
> > > > of "Multiple failed attempts to log in" with your account. I wanted to  
> > > let  
> > > > you know that the Wikimedia Foundation's Security team is aware of the
> > > > situation, and working with others in the organization on steps to  
> > > decrease  
> > > > the success of attacks like these.
> > > >
> > > > The exact source is not yet known, but it is not originating from our
> > > > systems. That means it is an external effort to gain unauthorized  
> > access  
> > > to  
> > > > random accounts. These types of efforts are increasingly common for
> > > > websites of our reach. A vast majority of these attempts have been
> > > > unsuccessful, and we are reaching out personally to the small number of
> > > > accounts which we believe have been compromised.
> > > >
> > > > While we are constantly looking at improvements to our security
> > > > systems  
> > > and  
> > > > processes to offset the impact of malicious efforts such as these, the  
> > > best  
> > > > method of prevention continues to be the steps each of you take to
> > > > safeguard your accounts. Because of this, we have taken steps in the  
> > past  
> > > > to support things like stronger password requirements,[1] and we  
> > continue  
> > > > to encourage everyone to take some routine steps to maintain a secure
> > > > computer and account. That includes regularly changing your  
> > passwords,[2]  
> > > > actively running antivirus software on your systems, and keeping your
> > > > system software up to date.
> > > >  
> > >
> > > From my experience, anti-virus programs usually do more harm than good.  
> > For  
> > > example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus recently blocked
> > > my
> > > entire shlomifish.org domain because it apparently misclassified an
> > > executable
> > > download as problematic (and it was built from source using
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMake and
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppVeyor
> > > so it is unlikely that that is the case.). MS Windows' poor resistance to
> > > malware and the fact that Windows Update is so dysfunctional (see
> > > http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Windows-Update/ ) are the
> > > reasons
> > > why I cannot recommend running it as a desktop, and instead one should  
> > use  
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#Desktop - desktop linux or similar.
> > >
> > > A little off topic perhaps, but needs to be said.
> > >  
> > > > My team will continue to investigate this incident, and report back if  
> > we  
> > > > notice any concerning changes. If you have any questions, please  
> > contact  
> > > > the Support and Safety team (susa{{@}}wikimedia.org).
> > > >
> > > > John Bennett
> > > > Director of Security, Wikimedia Foundation
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Password_strength_requirements
> > > > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ChangePassword
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