On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 7:41 AM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure that's true. Whether it started as a game of Nomic or > not, almost all of the admins have been elected through a certainly > established process. > That someone does an activity or that this person has been elected to perform an activity doesn't mean that he or she is a professional. It might be an occupation, but not a profession. On the en-wiki article about "profession" there are several milestones listed as how an occupation becomes a profession, the first one being that the occupation becomes a full-time occupation, all the rest are related to the establishment of professional bodies that regulate professionalization through training, ethics regulation, and licensing. In any case these matters are never clear-cut, they co-evolve over time based on the needs of the people involved. At this point of time I feel that the main need is talent retention while keeping the volunteer-driven spirit. It is not easy to maintain the social order when implementing changes like these, but I believe that with enough debate and consensus-making it would be possible to reach a satisfactory solution. From my side, I am open to more input, and more exchange of views. After this conversation it might be interesting to ask the people involved and see how would they feel by being more supported and appreciated by the community, then request to the community the necessary action to make it happen. I think the Signpost article and the email that Anders sent to this mailing list are very serious and they should be addressed efficiently and promptly. I personally cannot choose to ignore it, because I think that there are steps that can be taken and I would like to urge anyone reading this message to at least join this conversation. Regards, Micru _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
