Definitely one needs to be careful when dealing with paid editing that it's done in a transparent way and in a way that benefits the encyclopedia. I think that the English Wikipedia community has generally accepted that Wikimedians-in-Residence can do paid editing in a way that is beneficial to the encyclopedia. I would like to see more of the good and less of the bad. Money can certainly be a corrupting influence, but it can also support good activities that otherwise wouldn't occur or would occur with less frequency and quality.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 10:29 PM Ανώνυμος Βικιπαιδιστής < anonymuswikiped...@gmail.com> wrote: > Unfortunately it s been said in Greek wikipedia that people that take > grants are paid editors. And that came from people who already taken grants > for their projects in the past. Dark times in Greek wikipedia... > > Στις Τρί, 4 Σεπ 2018 - 00:03 ο χρήστης Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> > έγραψε: > > > Hello colleagues, > > > > A topic which I feel that I should address again on this mailing list is > > revenue for Wikimedia work, specifically WMF and non-WMF sources of > > revenue. > > > > I will start by talking about my personal situation, and then discuss > some > > related situations. > > > > I am currently requesting a grant from WMF. I cannot afford afford to > work > > on this project in a sustainable way without funding, and I feel that I > am > > making a request that is reasonably aligned with market rates for someone > > with my current level of skills and knowledge, but I feel conflicted > about > > requesting funding from WMF because of the potential for difficulties > > between WMF and the community, especially because of the potential that I > > would be reluctant to express my views regarding WMF due to fear of > losing > > WMF funding. (I'm not linking to my grant request here because I don't > want > > this email to give the impression that I'm using this topic to ask for > > community endorsements for my grant request.) > > > > Similarly, *The Signpost *is labor-intensive to produce, and I would like > > for funding to be available for the more prolific *Signpost *contributors > > so that they have a good reason to treat their labor for The Signpost as > > part time jobs. However, it would be difficult to maintain the editorial > > independence of *The Signpost *from WMF if the contributors (especially > > contributors to the "News and Notes" and "In the Media" sections, and the > > contributors who are responsible for the overall editing and > > publication of *The > > Signpost*) received funding from WMF. > > > > There are many other areas in the Wikimedia community where there is > enough > > work that is not getting done by volunteers, and/or where volunteers can > > put in so many hours that they can get burnt out, that I think that > non-WMF > > funding would be good to make available for contributors who would like > to > > work in these areas. Two examples are investigations of undisclosed paid > > editing, and translation and development of medical content. > > > > With Kaarl's cooperation (thank you, Kaarl) I have requested that two of > > the WMF strategy working groups consider non-WMF funding for Wikimedia > work > > as a part of their discussions. > > > > I would like for significant non-WMF revenue to be available for > Wikimedia > > work. I think that this could be arranged with WMF's cooperation, > although > > there is a long journey between saying that "I think that this could be > > arranged" and having a successful system in place. > > > > If you have thoughts that you would like to share on this topic, then I > > hope that you will comment here on this mailing list, or in some other > > appropriate location such as one or both of the relevant strategy talk > > pages ([1 > > < > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Revenue_Streams > > >] > > or [2 > > < > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Resource_Allocation > > > > > ]). > > > > Let me make a specific invitation to WMF employees to share your > thoughts. > > I would like to hear your comments, both official and personal, if that > is > > okay and if you would like to comment. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Pine > > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
