niedz., 12 maj 2019 o 16:23 Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <galder...@hotmail.com> napisał(a):
> As I am the author of the post, some remarks: > > * Commons is, indeed, the only [cloud] storage for file in most of the > Wikipedias. Making an accusation of using Commons as a storage place is > unfair and nonsense. > I think - what someone wanted to say - is that Commons is wiki with its own community, which desire some respect as any other wikimedia communities. In that sense - it is not cloud service which are usually maintained automatically. It is better to think about Commons - as a wiki - not as a cloud storage service. * Communication could be better, of course, but we don't have to think > on experienced editors and wikimedians, but on people we are trying to > convince to upload to the Commons and find this burden. They don't know how > to communicate and why they must do it. > That's true - therefore - when you organize any outreach or GLAM project it is good to teach the users how to communicate on wiki - as it is a quite strange system comparing to what typical internet user might be accustomed to, nowadays. * The upload system allow you to upload something if you are the > author. Period. > Yes. Exactly. If you think about default upload wizard - it is possible to upload other's works, but it is not that easy. Also - it is pretty hard to upload public domain works. * Of course, commons volunteers are few, and they have a great > job-queue. But outreach volunteers are less, and a project like this can > take a whole year of volunteer work. > Well - this is disputable. I don't know global proportions - but for example for Polish part of community - there are actually 3 employees doing outreach and around 10 volunteers - and there are 3 really active Polish Common's admins and only one regularly active OTRS agent (me)... Out of these 3 really active Common's admins - 2 are actually also doing outreach. And in fact - probably the best thing would be to have in any outreach team at least one person having good knowledge about hostile Common's habits and how to effectively cope with them :-) * After all the victim-blaming seen on this discussion no one was able > to point to a page where the procedure was clear for everyone. > Yeah. Because there is no any single page on Commons that might solve your problems. This is the other issue - Common's help pages are well.. far from being perfect. Let's hope we can follow with this project next year and we will have less > problems. > > > I hope too. This is for sure really interesting project worth any support. -- Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
