Through various means I'm aware of the partial or full circumstances of a number of office bans. In all cases, T&S investigated thoroughly and acted appropriately. I don't know why this case would be any different, or warrants pitchforks and torches from vocal members of the community, but these are the same community members who break them out at every opportunity in any case.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:06 AM Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am trying to have an open mind regarding this matter. > > I'm supportive of local and global bans in a variety of circumstances, and > if WMF thinks that sanctions are appropriate then I generally would expect > WMF to present the relevant evidence to community authorities. English > Wikipedia has ways of dealing with editors who are accused of misconduct, > and we have experienced administrators who are capable of investigating > situations and implementing bans including cases which involve nonpublic > evidence. > > In the absence of convincing evidence that demonstrates a major problem > with a Wikimedia community's competence and willingness to adjudicate cases > in a fair manner, I think that WMF interventions such as this are difficult > to justify. Based on the limited information that I have, I disagree with > WMF's process for this specific case, and in general I have ongoing > concerns about WMF's process for WMF-initiated bans. WMF's lack of faith in > the English Wikipedia community authorities' competence to adjudicate a > case such as this is discouraging and, as far as I know, not justified. > Even if a local community has well known problems with its self-governance, > I think that the appropriate recourse would be to the global community. > While the global community seems generally opposed to reviewing appeals of > specific local cases, I think that evidence of systemic problems would > likely get more attention and perhaps even a request from the global > community for WMF intervention. > > Based on the information that I know, I would reverse this WMF action and > move the case to the English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee for its > consideration. > > Pine > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
