People who oppose the ban: Are you aware of all aspects and things Fram has done? Do you have the full picture? It's really saddening to see how fast people jump to conclusion in page mentioned in the email. I personally, don't know what happened so I neither can support or oppose the ban. As simple as that.
So what should be done IMO. If enwiki wants to know more, a community body can ask for more information, if body satisfy two things: - They had signed NDA not to disclose the case - They are trusted by the community I think the only body can sorta work with this is stewards but not sure (Does ArbCom NDA'ed?) On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:58 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lack of transparency from the WMF, whatelse is new. > I'm currently under a funding ban secretly decided (by who?) based on a > false accusation, without providing any evidence. Until now I'm waiting for > an explanation from the WMF. So, this sort of attitude doesn't surprise me > at all. > It is very unfortunate that the WMF apparently thrives in this kind of > medieval obscurity, the opposite of the values of the Wikimedia Movement. > Matter for Roles & Reponsibilities. > > Best, > Paulo > > > Benjamin Ikuta <benjaminik...@gmail.com> escreveu no dia terça, 11/06/2019 > à(s) 05:45: > > > > > > > > > Thanks for this. > > > > I'm glad to see I'm not the only one dismayed by the unilateralism and > > lack of transparency. > > > > > > > > On Jun 10, 2019, at 8:25 PM, Techman224 <techman...@techman224.ca> > wrote: > > > > > Forwarding to WIkimedia-l since WikiEN-l is relatively dead. > > > > > > Since this message, an Arbcom member (SilkTork) stated that they > weren't > > consulted, nor did this action was the result of Arbcom forwarding a > > concern to the office. [1] > > > > > > The only non-response excuse from the WMF [2] was that "local > > communities consistently struggle to uphold not just their own autonomous > > rules but the Terms of Use, too.” even though there were no complaints > > on-wiki nor to Arbcom privately. > > > > > > The on-wiki discussion is taking place at the Bureaucrats and the > Arbcom > > noticeboards. > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#User:Fram_banned_for_1_year_by_WMF_office > > < > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#User:Fram_banned_for_1_year_by_WMF_office > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard#Request_for_ArbCom_to_comment_publicly_on_Fram's_ban > > > > > > [1] > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=901300528 > > < > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=901300528 > > > > > > [2] > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#Statement_from_the_WMF_Trust_&_Safety_Team > > > > > > Techman224 > > > > > >> Begin forwarded message: > > >> > > >> From: George Herbert <george.herb...@gmail.com> > > >> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block > > >> Date: June 10, 2019 at 8:54:34 PM CDT > > >> To: English Wikipedia <wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org> > > >> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org> > > >> > > >> In case you're not following on-wiki - Office S&T blocked English > > Wikipedia > > >> user / administrator Fram for a year and desysopped, for unspecified > > >> reasons in the Office purview. There was a brief statement here from > > >> Office regarding it which gave no details other than that normal > policy > > and > > >> procedures for Office actions were followed, which under normal > > >> circumstances preclude public comments. > > >> > > >> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#User:Fram_banned_for_1_year_by_WMF_office > > >> > > >> Several people on Arbcom and board have commented they're making > private > > >> inquiries under normal reporting and communication channels, due to > the > > >> oddity and essentially uniqueness of the action. > > >> > > >> There was an initial surge of dismay which has mellowed IMHO into "Ok, > > >> responsible people following up". > > >> > > >> I understand the sensitivity of some of the topics under Office > actions, > > >> having done OTRS and other various had-to-stay-private stuff myself at > > >> times in the past. A high profile investigation target is most > unusual > > but > > >> not unheard of. > > >> > > >> I did send email to Fram earlier today asking if they had any public > > >> comment, no reply as yet. > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> -george william herbert > > >> george.herb...@gmail.com > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> WikiEN-l mailing list > > >> wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org > > >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- Amir (he/him) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
