Sadly, people with advanced permissions (admin, checkuser etc) on Wikimedia projects are almost immune to sanctions. You could imagine a behavior that would normally lead to a site ban for people with no permission will only result in a desysop for an administrator. Worst of it is Wikimedia Commons where there has to be two different RfC/votes to get an admin desysoped.
Isaac On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 1:46 PM camelia boban <camelia.bo...@gmail.com wrote: > I quote David and Isaac. > Harassment is a serious thing and hounding another user is out of any wiki > behavior. > Before asking why WMF has banned an admin (and if Fram was not an admin, > all these discussions would not have been done), we need to ask ourselves > why we (other users) have allowed such an attitude without intervening to > stop it. > > > Camelia > > > -- > *Camelia Boban* > > *| Java EE Developer |* > > *Affiliations Committee - **Wikimedia *Foundation > Coordinator - Diversity Working Group for Wikimedia Strategy 2030 > Chair & co-founder - WikiDonne User Group *| WikiDonne Project ideator* > > *Diversity Space @ Wikimania 2019 Co-Lead* > WMIT - WMSE - WMCH - WMAR Member > > M. +39 3383385545 > camelia.bo...@gmail.com > *Aissa Technologies* <http://aissatechnologies.eu/>* | *Twitter > <https://twitter.com/cameliaboban> *|* *LinkedIn > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/camelia-boban-31319122>* > *Wikipedia <https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Camelia.boban> **| > **WikiDonne > UG <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiDonne>* | *WikiDonne Project > <https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progetto:WikiDonne> * > > > > > > > > > > > > Il giorno ven 14 giu 2019 alle ore 14:32 Mister Thrapostibongles < > thrapostibong...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > > Fæ > > > > [...] the pre-existing understanding that the WMF do not replace > > > existing and perfectly adequate community agreed procedures for > > > banning bad behaviour on our projects. > > > > > > Unfortunately, there is ample evidence that the existing English > Wikipedia > > community processes are not "perfectly adequate" for that purpose. > > > > > > > If the English > > > Wikipedia's policies are not fit for purpose, or implementation of > > > policy is incompetent, we need a much bigger discussion > > > > > > Indeed. Unfortunately the tone of the discussion here and at > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation%27s_ban_of_Fram > > suggests > > that the requisite discussion is now less, not more, likely to happen or > be > > productive. > > > > Thrapostibongles > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>