On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 10:56 AM Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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> It is well known that English Wikipedia is considered a toxic environment
> This has been known by all for a very long time. The fact of the matter is
> that the arbitration committee is not able to do something about it. There
> are many considerations possible but it is not this committee that is at
> fault it is the community itself. Many people are indignant that they are
> told that it has to stop. FRAM may be the "victim" in this but hey why not
> him? A point is being made.



Yes, the environment is full of toxic people. This has always been true,
and yet it exists. You want a revolution to make Wikipedia a friendlier
place? It isn't going to happen. There is no such place, at least not with
the critical mass of human participants that this project needs. Have you
been to a city? Have you seen Reddit or 4chan? Participated in a national
election? If so, do you really think that the WMF is going to institute
some sort of culture program that will solve problems inherent in human
nature?
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