Imagine a world where instead of going through security for 2 or 3 hours, flying for 4 hours and travelling by train and bus to get to and from airports in order to enjoy a physical meeting with fellow Wikimedians, you simply got a bus or train and travelled for an hour to a fun meeting place where you met several fellow Wikimedians in your country, and together spend the day playing around with immersive conferencing to workshop, discuss and learn from fellow Wikimedians in other countries. All this and still get home to spend the night in your own bed, feed your cat, or meet your kids coming back from school.
That's "making time and space for both" while taking real measurable action for climate change by reducing our entirely avoidable numbers of international flights. The truth is, that despite discussing this since Wikimania events started, and in that time technology making doing this is almost as simple as an Affiliate hiring headsets for mobile phones, we have never even trialled decent immersive virtual conferencing spaces for productive conferencing. Fae On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 12:57, Rebecca O'Neill <rebeccanin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is it, perhaps, that the value a lot of people derive from these events is > not just the conference itself, but the ability to meet fellow Wikimedians > face-to-face and make meaningful contacts and even friendships that may > never otherwise have come about? I'm all about virtual, but there is value > in physical events, and I would say that we should make time and space for > both. > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 12:54, Ilario Valdelli <valde...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yes > > > > We dont give all scholarships for that reason while for regional Wikicon we > > receive more requests and we fill the amount immediately. > > > > It's not an opinion that in our events people prefer to arrive by train and > > not by flight. We see it as soon we receive the expenses report and when we > > ask the reason the answer is the climate change. > > > > Kind regards > > > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2019, 13:25 Gabriel Thullen, <gabr...@thullen.com> wrote: > > > > > I am a Swiss member, and I did go to Wikimania (and did a small > > > presentation). > > > > > > I think that you need to clarify you statement: > > > "In Wikimedia CH we cannot give scholarships for Wikimania because people > > > would not do long trips." > > > > > > When looking up what was sais for Wikimania 2019 I read: > > > "Wikimedia CH offers scholarships for active Wikimedians. They cover > > > transportation, hotel (max 3 nights) from the 16th to the 18th, and > > > registration fees. To check your eligibility, you can consult conditions > > of > > > eligibility on this page > > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CH/Policies/Scholarships>." > > > > > > Best regards > > > Gabe > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:14 PM Ilario Valdelli <valde...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Anyways this is perceived by the community. > > > > > > > > In Wikimedia CH we cannot give scholarships for Wikimania because > > people > > > > would not do long trips. > > > > > > > > IMHO the problem is these big events. > > > > > > > > For this reason we prefer to give more scholarships for regional > > wikicon > > > > than to Wikimania. > > > > > > > > This is the reason why you dont see more Swiss people at Wikimania. > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > > > On Sat, 21 Sep 2019, 00:51 Samuel Klein, <meta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 4:00 PM Robert Fernandez < > > > wikigamal...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I think we could drastically lower our carbon footprint by not > > using > > > > > > community digital resources to beat the same dead horse for a > > > billionth > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I laughed out loud. > > > > > > > > > > AND. I love that the WMF joined the strike, and have some practical > > > > > thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > a) Reach out to Stripe > > > > > <https://stripe.com/gb/blog/negative-emissions-commitment>, which > > has > > > a > > > > > through self-assessment and a negative-emissions program, and the > > Long > > > > Now, > > > > > to coordinate efforts. > > > > > b) Evaluate the community-wide carbon footprint, which is dominated > > by > > > > > b.1) How we run conferences [*mostly in person*] > > > > > b.2) How we choose partners, communicate climate imformation, and > > > > > prioritize related policies [*fairly ad-hoc*] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > -- > PhD in Digital Media > Project Coordinator Wikimedia Community Ireland <http://wikimedia.ie> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae Personal and confidential, please do not circulate or re-quote. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
