I can only reiterate what Lodewijk said - I'm trying to find the approach and goals in the decision to acknowledge user groups that seem to be an integral part (or from an outside perspective, should be) of the national chapter. In the past this has been an indicator of personal conflicts within a chapter or user group and AffCom perpetuating these conflicts by setting up competing affiliates (the situation in Albania being a recent example of this).
Best, Philip On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 06:33, effe iets anders <effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would like to note that one of the contacts of this user group is > Vladimir Medeyko, the director of Wikimedia Russia. I'm assuming > comfortably that this application happened in full coordination with > Wikimedia Russia. > > The question about process is still an interesting one though (what is > nowadays the approach of Affcom, and what are the considerations) when a > user group application comes in from a geographic area with an active > affiliate at a 'higher level' (in this case, a country). You could continue > the comparison with what happens if an application would come in from South > of Nevsky (a neighborhood in St. Petersburg). > > Lodewijk > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:29 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Wikimedia NYC is a very different situation, there is not a national > > chapter in the US, so it's not a cell of anything. > > Just to clarify: Saint Petersburg eventually could not be a cell, but the > > way it is presented (to promote Wikimedia RU activities in SP, with same > > Wikimedia RU people), it's basically a cell. > > > > Paulo > > > > Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> escreveu no dia quinta, > 3/10/2019 > > à(s) 23:06: > > > > > What about Wikimedia NYC? (I'm not sure of its organizational status) > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 6:03 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < > > > paulospern...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Wales is a whole country complete with it's own language, I don't > > believe > > > > it compares with a city UG. > > > > > > > > Paulo > > > > > > > > Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> escreveu no dia quinta, > > > 3/10/2019 > > > > à(s) 22:53: > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 20:45, Paulo Santos Perneta > > > > > <paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Why isn't it a department of Wikimedia Russia, if apparently it's > > > > > basically > > > > > > a cell of Wikimedia Russia? > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a curious precedent. > > > > > > > > > > The precedent was already set, in March 2017, by Wikimedia > Community > > > > > User Group Wales (c/f Wikimedia UK). > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Andy Mabbett > > > > > @pigsonthewing > > > > > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
