Hi folks,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts about how this information could be useful
for local affiliates and communities. We'll discuss internally to see if we
might be able to share more information in the future in order to achieve
those benefits in ways that don't raise legal concerns or create excessive
overhead for our fundraising team. We're entering into the busiest time of
the year for online fundraising, though, so it'll be at least a few months
before we are able to address the question internally.

 - Chuck

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On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:27 AM Philip Kopetzky <philip.kopet...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Chuck for digging out that old email, it does explain why this isn't
> done for every country.
> Chris and Sandra have a point though, because this can't be a legal issue
> for most European countries for example. In return, the local organisations
> and communities would benefit from an added layer of feedback based on
> their work.
>
> Furthermore, how and how much we fundraise will be one of the important
> talking points when implementing the recommendations, especially to set a
> benchmark to evaluate if involving local organisations in the fundraising
> process actually works or not.
>
> Best,
> Philip
>
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 09:38, Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland <
> rient...@wikimedia.nl> wrote:
>
> > I agree with Chris.
> > Furthermore: Wikimedia Nederland, like all chapters, puts a lot of effort
> > in raising awareness of and support for the Wikimedia projects.  I would
> > really like to know if these efforts 'pay off'.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sandra Rientjes
> > Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
> >
> > tel.    (+31) (0)30 3200238 (ma, di, do)
> > mob. (+31) (0)6  31786379 (wo, vrij)
> >
> > www.wikimedia.nl
> >
> >
> > Mariaplaats 3
> > 3511 LH  Utrecht
> >
> >
> > Op do 3 okt. 2019 om 09:13 schreef Chris Keating <
> > chriskeatingw...@gmail.com
> > >:
> >
> > > Hi Chuck,
> > >
> > > The reasons the question keeps getting asked is because it was never
> > really
> > > answered in the first place.
> > >
> > > The only good reason I can think of for not publishing country-level
> data
> > > is that there are some countries where that could create risks to the
> WMF
> > > or individuals because they're places where giving donations to a US
> > > nonprofit is either illegal or politically risky.
> > >
> > > However that doesn't apply to most countries, so why not publish the
> data
> > > for most of the world?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:34 AM Chuck Roslof <cros...@wikimedia.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Philip,
> > > >
> > > > We do not publish country-level fundraising numbers. My colleague
> > Stephen
> > > > discussed why on this list a few years back, so rather than
> > paraphrasing
> > > > his previous email I'll just provide a link to it:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-November/085576.html
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Chuck
> > > >
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> > > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:05 AM Philip Kopetzky <
> > > philip.kopet...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Patricia,
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for the report! Is it possible to get a country-by-country
> > > > breakdown
> > > > > of the donations as well?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > Philip
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 01:25, Patricia Pena <pp...@wikimedia.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I’m excited to share with you our FY1819 Fundraising Report
> > > > > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report>.
> This
> > > > > report
> > > > > > is an opportunity to provide insight into our revenue model and
> the
> > > > > > strategy that goes into creating an impactful fundraising
> > campaign. A
> > > > > > sincere thank you to the millions of donors in nearly 30
> countries
> > > who
> > > > > > support our mission.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd also like to thank everyone who contributed and collaborated
> on
> > > > this
> > > > > > document: Online Fundraising, Major Gifts & Endowment,
> Fundraising
> > > > > > Operations, Donor Services, Fundraising Tech, Legal,
> > Communications,
> > > > > > Finance and more! Special thanks to Thea Skaff for once again
> > project
> > > > > > managing this entire effort.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We welcome your feedback and questions on the talk page.
> > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > Pats
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