My only hangup with jitsi is the design choice (that zoom used to have) to
drop new attendees with mic and camera default to open as the default. I
know it is now possible to change this on a per meeting level, but the fact
that sometimes it isn't me setting up the meeting made me go with Google
meet for the time being. This was in the context of the User Group Wiki
Movement Brazil (WMB) periodical meetings.

Google gave us, WMB, a free non-profit subscription to all of gsuite and it
allows us meetings of up to 25 people. Last I checked the free tier without
the non-profit program is up to 10 people per meeting.

Jitsi is superior to zoom in my view, not only the open source aspect is
important but zoom does not have a browser based solution that I'm aware
of. And a few months ago there was a serious vulnerability disclosed for
the zoom local client that kept its foothold even *after* the user chose to
uninstall the zoom client.

For now my recommendations are meet, better than jitsi, better than zoom.

Best regards,

Chico Venancio

Em ter, 10 de mar de 2020 22:53, Sam Wilson <s...@samwilson.id.au> escreveu:

> Jitsi is also integrated into Riot (the Matrix client). I was in a group
> trying it out a couple of weeks ago, and it worked really well. If there
> are two people in a room, it uses a direct connection, and if there are
> three or more it uses Jitsi (both inside the Riot interface, so there's
> no need to set up separate URLs or anything).
>
>
> On 11/3/20 12:22 am, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote:
> > I am a big fan of open source, and setting up a Jitsi conference is a
> > solution that I often default too (with a bonus of having the possibility
> > to have easy placeholders, e.g. meet.jit.si/WikimediaSummit
> >
> > best,
> >
> > dj
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:05 AM Yaroslav Blanter <ymb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> For a setting with a lot of presentations and questions Zoom should work
> >> fine
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://zoom.us/?zcid=2314&creative=359453254254&keyword=%2Bzoom%20online%20%2Bmeeting&matchtype=b&network=g&device=c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsI2o0JaQ6AIVBc13Ch0VxwqZEAAYASAAEgJs0_D_BwE
> >>
> >> but of course it would not provide any interaction between participants.
> >>
> >> Best
> >> Yaroslav
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 3:59 PM WereSpielChequers <
> >> werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not
> >>> wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd
> decided
> >> to
> >>> attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and
> even
> >>> May meetings might need to go virtual.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a recommended software solution for video/audio conferencing a
> >>> dozen to twenty people?
> >>>
> >>> I took part in some not the wikipedia Weekly podcasts almost a decade
> >> ago,
> >>> but i'm assuming the technology has progressed since then.
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Not_The_Wikipedia_Weekly
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> WSC
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 13:27, <wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
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> >>>>     1. Re: 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open (Dariusz Jemielniak)
> >>>>     2. Re: 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open (Gnangarra)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 1
> >>>> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:48:48 -0400
> >>>> From: Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl>
> >>>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>          <
> >>>> cadespguuq96jzaylkajfipv-isfmqvcul8nhm+scbjxagfd...@mail.gmail.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a
> >>> professional
> >>>> team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5
> >> months
> >>> in
> >>>> the future.
> >>>>
> >>>> It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the
> >>>> situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer
> >> where
> >>> we
> >>>> stand.
> >>>>
> >>>> For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is
> >> not
> >>>> shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing
> >>> down
> >>>> the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly
> >>>> prioritizes our safety.
> >>>>
> >>>> I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that
> >> they
> >>>> are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Dj "pundit"
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr <rehman.wikime...@live.com
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks
> >> are
> >>>>> far too great.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the
> >>>>> potential to cause significant damage to the Movement.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I
> >> strongly
> >>>>> hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this
> >> year's
> >>>>> conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk
> >> of
> >>>>> spreading it to more parts of the world.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yours truly,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rehman<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rehman>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>> From: Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org> on
> >> behalf
> >>> of
> >>>>> James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> Sent: 09 March 2020 22:51
> >>>>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  From a personal perspective, I have cancelled all future travel
> plans
> >>> and
> >>>>> have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course
> >> in
> >>>>> healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> James
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski <
> >> toni91ehrl...@gmail.com
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>> *********************************
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> >>
> >> <https://nerds.kozminski.edu.pl/>​​
> >>
> >> Dariusz Jemielniak, Ph.D., Full Professor, head of  MINDS
> >> <https://nerds.kozminski.edu.pl/>
> >>
> >> (Management in Networked and Digital  Societies), Kozminski University
> >>
> >> Polish Academy of Sciences corresponding member
> >>
> >> associate faculty Berkman-Klein Center for Internet and Society
> >> <https://cyber.harvard.edu/>, Harvard University
> >> *Key books*: Collaborative Society
> >> <https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/collaborative-society> (2020, MIT
> Press,
> >> with A. Przegalinska), Thick Big Data
> >> <
> https://global.oup.com/academic/product/thick-big-data-9780198839705?cc=gb&lang=en
> >
> >> (2020, Oxford University Press), Common Knowledge?
> >> <https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=24010> (2014, Stanford University
> >> Press)
> >> *Recent articles:*
> >>
> >> Jemielniak D. (2019) Wikipedia: Why is the common knowledge resource
> >> still neglected by academics?
> >> <https://academic.oup.com/gigascience/article/8/12/giz139/5651107>,
> >> Gigascience 8(12):  giz139
> >>
> >> Hergueux, J. & Jemielniak, D. (2019) Should digital files be considered
> a
> >> commons? Copyright infringement in the eyes of lawyers
> >> <
> https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01972243.2019.1616019?fbclid=IwAR1Wskn7Bwnhko05SS-frOc6TiAuxPzPSWGo5_50Xu6NiNdxnDfxeleF-PM
> >,
> >> The Information Society, 35(4): 198-215
> >>
> >> Jemielniak, D.,Masukume, G. & Wilamowski, M.  (2019) The Most
> Influential
> >> Medical Journals According to Wikipedia: Quantitative Analysis
> >> <https://www.jmir.org/2019/1/e11429/pdf>, Journal of Medical Internet
> >> Research, 21(1):E11429
> >>
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