Rupert, My comment below referred to the point Kunal made about hosting should the movement decide (and it is a movement decision in my view) to go forward with a paid API. There is a healthy debate as you point out about the wisdom or otherwise of doing so. But should a decision be made to go forward, I believe that the hosting can be done on WMF clusters run by the Cloud Services team to avoid putting our content on 3rd party commercial services. While I was on staff, and I don’t think this has changed since my departure, the preference was to maintain control of content - including accessing it - internally to protect movement privacy. If I had a penny for every time I got an offer of “free” hosting from AWS and others, my penny jar would be overflowing!
All the best, Victoria > On Jul 22, 2020, at 12:50 AM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > victoria, discussions to monetize the wikipedia content in one or the other > way are as old as wikipedia. some people say "why should i continue editing > and supporting wikipedia in my free time, or donate money, attracted by the > vision to make it available to all, without condition, when WMF starts > selling parts of it?" while the others feel that wikipedia relying on > donations only keeps them at a shoestring budget, which meanwhile grew to > 100 million USD a year. up to now the discussion always ended with a > similar result: wikipedia would loose more than it would gain, and the > initiative stopped. why this time it would be different? even more so as > this API idea was already there when sue gardner joined 10 or more years > ago. but maybe it becomes a good idea over time if it is brought up often > enough and the environment changes. in 20 years or so, when the wikipedia > content is auto-generated, auto-translated and WMF has no employees any > more and no need of voluntary work this for sure would work. > > rupert > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 9:19 PM Victoria Coleman < > vstavridoucole...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> +1 Kunal! The WMF Cloud Services team can totally provide the needed >> support. The Foundation would have to invest them to build up the team >> which is over stretched but that should easily pay for itself as revenue >> starts flowing in from the paid API. >> >> Victoria >> >>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Kunal Mehta <lego...@member.fsf.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 2020-07-09 13:15, Dan Garry (Deskana) wrote: >>>> Which cloud provider would you recommend? >>> >>> Wikimedia Cloud Services, which incidentally, has the fastest network >>> connection to Wikimedia sites by virtue of it being hosted *inside* the >>> cluster. >>> >>> -- Legoktm >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
