Hi all, We have had discussions on this with many Wikimedians over the years, but frankly, the issue never seemed pressing enough to pursue more seriously. Some points made that I remember where:
- Perhaps it is enough to just have back-up servers in another jurisdictions that could kick-in and whose capacity could quickly be upgraded in case of need. - Nordic jurisdictions like Iceland and Norway frequently came up with the arguments: stable political systems, solid digital rights track records, a climate that helps save energy on cooling servers & availability of hydropower (i.e. environmental benefits). I think such a move would require serious studies and long, community-wide debates. I can not assess how urgent it is. But then again, waiting until it is a real issue is probably not a great idea. Cheers, Dimi На ср, 30.09.2020 г. в 11:35 Dan Garry (Deskana) <djgw...@gmail.com> написа: > On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 09:49, Erik Moeller <eloque...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I hope that some preliminary contingency plans exist or are being > > developed, and I'm sure that the movement-wide debate will widen if > > the US continues its downward slide into authoritarianism. > > > > I agree with Erik. Even under the Obama administration, there were threats > to the existence of the movement, such as SOPA [1] which lead to a blackout > [2]. One can extrapolate from current events that these threats could well > get larger and more frequent, rather than smaller and less frequent, should > someone in the US Government decide to focus their attention on attacking > Wikipedia and free knowledge. It would be prudent to create a contingency > plan which includes an exploration of other options for a location of > operation for the Wikimedia Foundation and/or its servers, with their > advantages and disadvantages. I personally wouldn't necessarily advocate > for making the plan public; that would be ideal, but I'd be comforted > merely to know it exists. > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 23:36, Joseph Seddon <josephsed...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I believe options are going to be explored for sustainability but right > now > > legally speaking the US is the best jurisdiction for hosting us now and > the > > foreseeable future. > > > > I agree with this too. For now, the United States remains the best place > for the organisation to operate out of, and a move should not be actively > considered. > > Dan > > [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act > [2]: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PIPA#Wikimedia_community > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
