Someone with the entirely authoritative email address " hillbillyholi...@gmail.com" writes (apparently under the impression that I don't know who Andreas is) the following:
'I am appalled by your sneering condescension of Andreas.' This is an unusual misreading of a fairly straightforward, even though ironic, text. A careful reader will have noted that did not dispute Andreas's research or recitation of any facts. What I did dispute is his characterization of motives, which is ungrounded in any of those facts. In a subsequent message, Hillbillyholiday says somethingsomethingsomething about me being a nazi, haha. In the land where I grew up, soi-disant "hillbillies"--whether on holiday or not--knew their Bible verses. So perhaps Hillbilly will understand why the verse that comes to mind in reference to his attempt at a riposte is Job 38:4. Mike On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 3:35 AM <wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to > wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikimedia-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimedia-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021 (Kiril Simeonovski) > 2. Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check... > (hillbillyholi...@gmail.com) > 3. Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check... > (Gerard Meijssen) > 4. Re: Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021 > (Ashwin Baindur - User AshLin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 22:21:50 +0200 > From: Kiril Simeonovski <kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021 > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <CABuEHm4TPFUibdkyXz0= > uefwammj5fu1mf9lefe_e2b8qeg...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="000000000000622d7805ca7c1e12" > > Dear all, > > I would like to announce the Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021 > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2021>, which > is scheduled to take place from 5-7 November and will be a virtual event > for a second consecutive year. > > This year's conference will be labelled with the slogan "Meet for a Better > Future!" and its programme will be mostly filled with session proposals > received through a call for submissions, while there will also be a handful > of sessions that will feature keynote speakers or will be formatted as > plenary discussions on important topics from the Wikimedia movement. *You > can submit your session proposal > < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2021/Submissions > > > until > the extended deadline of 30 September 2021.* > > Considering that the event will take place in an online environment and > there are no significant barriers for participation, we would like to > encourage participation and session proposals by people from outside the > region of Central and Eastern Europe. > > In case you have any questions regarding the conference, please do not > hesitate to contact the Organising Committee members > < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2021/Development#Organising_Committee > >. > You can also read the official blog post > < > https://diff.wikimedia.org/2021/07/20/announcing-the-wikimedia-cee-online-meeting-2021/ > > > announcing the event in order to get more information about it. > > Best regards, > > Kiril Simeonovski > -------------- next part -------------- > A message part incompatible with plain text digests has been removed ... > Name: not available > Type: text/html > Size: 2787 bytes > Desc: not available > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 23:55:40 -0000 > From: hillbillyholi...@gmail.com > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion > article to check... > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Message-ID: > <162993574052.25702.10662504817674886...@lists1001.wikimedia.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Mike, > > I am appalled by your sneering condescension of Andreas. > > This is a researcher and journalist who has worked diligently for a decade > to identify, examine and expose the systematic failings which beset > Wikipedia. He generously offers practical soultions to problems the WMF is > unaware of. It is unquestionable that he has knows more about and has done > more to improve the encyclopedia than you. > > As a spokesperson for a charity that exists to promote knowledge, your > sarcastic and dismissive attitude is utterly shameful. > > If you think only a few "insignificant" sites like Croatian or Japanese > Wikipedia have areas run by ultranationalists, think again -- English > Wikipedia has articles completely controlled by terrorist groups right now. > I would tell you which ones but it seems you are are uninterested and > unconcerned by extremist groups successfully pushing their agenda on this > ostensibly educational website. > > Administrators and arbitrators are aware of the problem and have been for > years. So far they have been unwilling or unable to act decisively. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 08:46:52 +0200 > From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion > article to check... > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <CAO53wxUwTZ= > wom0_oydrhlxx_zrdcotge-vammyyx0esgdh...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="000000000000e955a905ca84d981" > > Hoi, > Get your facts straight. Mike is not an employee nor a spokesperson for the > Wikimedia Foundation. Andreas has a set of hobby horses. That is fine but > it does not follow that we have to be grateful for them. Yes, there are > plenty of issues with all of our projects and at that, English sets a > pattern that is hardly beneficial for the smallest projects. > Thanks, > Gerard > > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 at 07:43, <hillbillyholi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > I am appalled by your sneering condescension of Andreas. > > > > This is a researcher and journalist who has worked diligently for a > decade > > to identify, examine and expose the systematic failings which beset > > Wikipedia. He generously offers practical soultions to problems the WMF > is > > unaware of. It is unquestionable that he has knows more about and has > done > > more to improve the encyclopedia than you. > > > > As a spokesperson for a charity that exists to promote knowledge, your > > sarcastic and dismissive attitude is utterly shameful. > > > > If you think only a few "insignificant" sites like Croatian or Japanese > > Wikipedia have areas run by ultranationalists, think again -- English > > Wikipedia has articles completely controlled by terrorist groups right > now. > > I would tell you which ones but it seems you are are uninterested and > > unconcerned by extremist groups successfully pushing their agenda on this > > ostensibly educational website. > > > > Administrators and arbitrators are aware of the problem and have been for > > years. So far they have been unwilling or unable to act decisively. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > Public archives at > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/YFHWL3KNL3AZMBXBMG33VOT6BZ2LEZXJ/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A message part incompatible with plain text digests has been removed ... > Name: not available > Type: text/html > Size: 2868 bytes > Desc: not available > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 14:03:48 +0530 > From: Ashwin Baindur - User AshLin <ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021 > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <CAMo0PCh= > ivanvvukt9ckdrr+-xd5ke+yf8adkljpyrzsctf...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="000000000000b94a2e05ca865951" > > Hi Kiril, > > What would be the language of communication? > > Regards, Ashwin Baindur (User:AshLin on en:WP) > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 at 01:52, Kiril Simeonovski < > kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > I would like to announce the Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021 > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2021>, > > which is scheduled to take place from 5-7 November and will be a virtual > > event for a second consecutive year. > > > > This year's conference will be labelled with the slogan "Meet for a > Better > > Future!" and its programme will be mostly filled with session proposals > > received through a call for submissions, while there will also be a > handful > > of sessions that will feature keynote speakers or will be formatted as > > plenary discussions on important topics from the Wikimedia movement. *You > > can submit your session proposal > > < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2021/Submissions> > until > > the extended deadline of 30 September 2021.* > > > > Considering that the event will take place in an online environment and > > there are no significant barriers for participation, we would like to > > encourage participation and session proposals by people from outside the > > region of Central and Eastern Europe. > > > > In case you have any questions regarding the conference, please do not > > hesitate to contact the Organising Committee members > > < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2021/Development#Organising_Committee > >. > > You can also read the official blog post > > < > https://diff.wikimedia.org/2021/07/20/announcing-the-wikimedia-cee-online-meeting-2021/ > > > > announcing the event in order to get more information about it. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Kiril Simeonovski > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > Public archives at > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/KHXDBDAFEZWCFBUYW5PJYOTY43CNL2DJ/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > -- > Warm regards, > > Ashwin Baindur > -------------- next part -------------- > A message part incompatible with plain text digests has been removed ... > Name: not available > Type: text/html > Size: 4775 bytes > Desc: not available > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at $hyperkitty_url > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 257, Issue 1 > ******************************************* >
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