Given that Hillbillyholiday is moderated biting replies aren't much fair.

Vito

Il giorno lun 30 ago 2021 alle ore 03:05 Mike Godwin <mnemo...@gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Someone with the entirely authoritative email address "
> hillbillyholi...@gmail.com" writes (apparently under the impression that
> I don't know who Andreas is) the following:
>
> 'I am appalled by your sneering condescension of Andreas.'
>
> This is an unusual misreading of a fairly straightforward, even though
> ironic, text. A careful reader will have noted that did not dispute
> Andreas's research or recitation of any facts. What I did dispute is his
> characterization of motives, which is ungrounded in any of those facts.
>
> In a subsequent message, Hillbillyholiday says somethingsomethingsomething
> about me being a nazi, haha.
>
> In the land where I grew up, soi-disant "hillbillies"--whether on holiday
> or not--knew their Bible verses. So perhaps Hillbilly will understand why
> the verse that comes to mind in reference to his attempt at a riposte is
> Job 38:4.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 3:35 AM <wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
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>>    1. Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021 (Kiril Simeonovski)
>>    2. Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...
>>       (hillbillyholi...@gmail.com)
>>    3. Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...
>>       (Gerard Meijssen)
>>    4. Re: Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021
>>       (Ashwin Baindur - User AshLin)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 22:21:50 +0200
>> From: Kiril Simeonovski <kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021
>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
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>> Dear all,
>>
>> I would like to announce the Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2021>,
>> which
>> is scheduled to take place from 5-7 November and will be a virtual event
>> for a second consecutive year.
>>
>> This year's conference will be labelled with the slogan "Meet for a Better
>> Future!" and its programme will be mostly filled with session proposals
>> received through a call for submissions, while there will also be a
>> handful
>> of sessions that will feature keynote speakers or will be formatted as
>> plenary discussions on important topics from the Wikimedia movement. *You
>> can submit your session proposal
>> <
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2021/Submissions
>> >
>> until
>> the extended deadline of 30 September 2021.*
>>
>> Considering that the event will take place in an online environment and
>> there are no significant barriers for participation, we would like to
>> encourage participation and session proposals by people from outside the
>> region of Central and Eastern Europe.
>>
>> In case you have any questions regarding the conference, please do not
>> hesitate to contact the Organising Committee members
>> <
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2021/Development#Organising_Committee
>> >.
>> You can also read the official blog post
>> <
>> https://diff.wikimedia.org/2021/07/20/announcing-the-wikimedia-cee-online-meeting-2021/
>> >
>> announcing the event in order to get more information about it.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Kiril Simeonovski
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 23:55:40 -0000
>> From: hillbillyholi...@gmail.com
>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion
>>         article to check...
>> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I am appalled by your sneering condescension of Andreas.
>>
>> This is a researcher and journalist who has worked diligently for a
>> decade to identify, examine and expose the systematic failings which beset
>> Wikipedia. He generously offers practical soultions to problems the WMF is
>> unaware of.  It is unquestionable that he has knows more about and has done
>> more to improve the encyclopedia than you.
>>
>> As a spokesperson for a charity that exists to promote knowledge, your
>> sarcastic and dismissive attitude is utterly shameful.
>>
>> If you think only a few "insignificant" sites like Croatian or Japanese
>> Wikipedia have areas run by ultranationalists, think again -- English
>> Wikipedia has articles completely controlled by terrorist groups right now.
>> I would tell you which ones but it seems you are are uninterested and
>> unconcerned by extremist groups successfully pushing their agenda on this
>> ostensibly educational website.
>>
>> Administrators and arbitrators are aware of the problem and have been for
>> years. So far they have been unwilling or unable to act decisively.
>>
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>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 08:46:52 +0200
>> From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion
>>         article to check...
>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
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>>
>> Hoi,
>> Get your facts straight. Mike is not an employee nor a spokesperson for
>> the
>> Wikimedia Foundation.  Andreas has a set of hobby horses. That is fine but
>> it does not follow that we have to be grateful for them. Yes, there are
>> plenty of issues with all of our projects and at that, English sets a
>> pattern that is hardly beneficial for the smallest projects.
>> Thanks,
>>       Gerard
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 at 07:43, <hillbillyholi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > I am appalled by your sneering condescension of Andreas.
>> >
>> > This is a researcher and journalist who has worked diligently for a
>> decade
>> > to identify, examine and expose the systematic failings which beset
>> > Wikipedia. He generously offers practical soultions to problems the WMF
>> is
>> > unaware of.  It is unquestionable that he has knows more about and has
>> done
>> > more to improve the encyclopedia than you.
>> >
>> > As a spokesperson for a charity that exists to promote knowledge, your
>> > sarcastic and dismissive attitude is utterly shameful.
>> >
>> > If you think only a few "insignificant" sites like Croatian or Japanese
>> > Wikipedia have areas run by ultranationalists, think again -- English
>> > Wikipedia has articles completely controlled by terrorist groups right
>> now.
>> > I would tell you which ones but it seems you are are uninterested and
>> > unconcerned by extremist groups successfully pushing their agenda on
>> this
>> > ostensibly educational website.
>> >
>> > Administrators and arbitrators are aware of the problem and have been
>> for
>> > years. So far they have been unwilling or unable to act decisively.
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>> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 14:03:48 +0530
>> From: Ashwin Baindur - User AshLin <ashwin.bain...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021
>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
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>> Hi Kiril,
>>
>> What would be the language of communication?
>>
>> Regards, Ashwin Baindur (User:AshLin on en:WP)
>>
>> On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 at 01:52, Kiril Simeonovski <
>> kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I would like to announce the Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2021
>> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2021>,
>> > which is scheduled to take place from 5-7 November and will be a virtual
>> > event for a second consecutive year.
>> >
>> > This year's conference will be labelled with the slogan "Meet for a
>> Better
>> > Future!" and its programme will be mostly filled with session proposals
>> > received through a call for submissions, while there will also be a
>> handful
>> > of sessions that will feature keynote speakers or will be formatted as
>> > plenary discussions on important topics from the Wikimedia movement.
>> *You
>> > can submit your session proposal
>> > <
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2021/Submissions>
>> until
>> > the extended deadline of 30 September 2021.*
>> >
>> > Considering that the event will take place in an online environment and
>> > there are no significant barriers for participation, we would like to
>> > encourage participation and session proposals by people from outside the
>> > region of Central and Eastern Europe.
>> >
>> > In case you have any questions regarding the conference, please do not
>> > hesitate to contact the Organising Committee members
>> > <
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2021/Development#Organising_Committee
>> >.
>> > You can also read the official blog post
>> > <
>> https://diff.wikimedia.org/2021/07/20/announcing-the-wikimedia-cee-online-meeting-2021/
>> >
>> > announcing the event in order to get more information about it.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Kiril Simeonovski
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> --
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Ashwin Baindur
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