Let me suggest an improvement for the next time: the Election Compass gives the 
username and the voting system is orded by real name. It would be great to have 
both/be consistent.

But... 70 candidates! It seems hard to make something perfect.
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From: Jan Ainali <ainali....@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:29 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Movement Charter Drafting Committee elections are 
now open!

Thanks for your reply Kaarel,

I just wanted to note that UI of SecurePoll caused problem in the board 
election too, and that the same excuse was used then "in a short time once". 
Obviously this is a piece of infrastructure that we need in the movement and 
that any team doing one election should not need to fix the software for it.

Hence, a specific project, unrelated to any election, should be tasked to solve 
this by the Wikimedia Foundation. And it should start soon to avoid us finding 
ourselves in the same problem when the next election is being called.

Thanks,
Jan Ainali


Den mån 18 okt. 2021 kl 13:02 skrev Kaarel Vaidla 
<kvai...@wikimedia.org<mailto:kvai...@wikimedia.org>>:
Thank you everyone for taking the time to vote on the elections, for engaging 
with the tools that have been created to facilitate the voting, and for taking 
the time to provide the feedback. Running these elections with 70 candidates is 
a pilot and it is a great opportunity to learn together and with your support 
and input. We are gathering the lessons learned, so there can be improvements 
for the next time.

I am responding to some of the points made in the thread:

  *   The user interface and, as a result, the user experience for voting on 
the SecurePoll for 70 candidates with a Single Transferable Voting method is 
indeed sub-optimal. Unfortunately, we could not figure out how to make it more 
user friendly in a short time once it became clear that there would be 70 
candidates. It would need essential changes on how the voting would happen. 
There are some suggestions for improvements in this thread (no dropbox, but 
clickable or drag & drop candidate chips; choosing a different voting method or 
creating 7-member districts). It would be great to receive further perspectives 
on this!

  *   Thank you, Lodewijk, for sharing practical guidance on how to make the 
most of the current user interface. Typing the first letter of the candidate 
name to find the right one in the dropdown box with 70 names is probably the 
best way to do it. A huge thank you to everyone who is taking the time to cast 
their vote!

  *   Ensuring the supporting materials to help people to make informed 
decisions has been a complex matter. The candidate 
statements<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates#Candidates>
 add up to 55 pages of text, which is difficult to navigate. It seemed like a 
compass tool could be of help here, but it comes with its own complications:
     *   There was a 10-day window to submit the statements and a 5-day 
upvoting period. We did our best to communicate it widely on mailing lists 
(e.g. 
here<https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/7HVBI6M55MNVBKHNEDBEIUPSWFGJIBIE/>
 and 
here<https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/FAJ57JAR3VP75V23OKX6MEBYUHWIAYUY/>)
 as well as social media groups, yet as there is so.much going on, not everyone 
noticed it in the timely manner.
     *   We are no longer collecting or upvoting statements. We hope that 19 
that were selected are at least to some extent helpful in informing the voting. 
We are happy to receive the feedback regarding the statement collection and 
upvoting, so it would be possible to improve the process in the future.
     *   Election compass has its own user interface and experience challenges. 
We have opted for all the candidates being selected as default for comparison, 
as it provides a good comparison across the pool - this helps to have a good 
overview of the positions of all the candidates. However, this makes navigating 
their rationale statements more difficult, as it involves a lot of scrolling. 
Also, if one is interested in comparing 2 candidates, there is a lot of 
deselecting that needs to happen. It seemed that selecting candidates manually 
would bring more personal bias into use of the tool, so we have chosen the 
select all approach as default. Overall, it is the number of candidates that is 
creating the bulk of the navigation and comparison issues and we are open to 
feedback on how to improve this in the future.
     *   The length of the statements made by the candidates in the compass 
tool was capped to prevent us from creating another wall of text. While it 
helps to better understand the position of the candidate, it would create a 
further barrier for voter engagement, if the expression is not clear and 
concise. I believe that the word limits will be an essential part of the future 
elections and candidate statements, because it reduces the access barrier for 
voters and also facilitates translations to a wider range of languages, which 
makes the information even more accessible. What can be discussed is the exact 
limit size and also what information is the most helpful to collect from 
candidates.
     *   The tool that we used is Open Election 
Compass<https://open-election-compass.com/>. We did not do a full code review 
for this, but we did not experience any anomalies in weighing of the votes 
during testing. If there are people who are interested in doing the code 
review, here is the link to the tool in 
GitHub<https://github.com/open-election-compass/client>.
  *   We are truly grateful to the community members who have stepped in and 
tried to make the information regarding the candidates more easily digestible. 
This goes a long way in supporting informed voting in this process! Thank you 
Dušan Kreheľ and Andrew Lih for your proactive and constructive approach!

I apologize for the length of the response - I have tried to break it up so the 
single points are more clear. I am available to respond to any further 
questions and specifications, as well as happy to receive any further feedback.

Wishing everyone a great week ahead!
Kaarel

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 10:44 AM Mario Gómez 
<mariogomw...@gmail.com<mailto:mariogomw...@gmail.com>> wrote:


On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 3:57 AM effe iets anders 
<effeietsand...@gmail.com<mailto:effeietsand...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is a horribly problematic election. Not only does it take hours to go 
through the candidates if you actually want to rank them, but you would also 
need to be willing to spend about a lot of time to enter them into the broken 
voting interface (which works great for up to 5 candidates - not for 70).

I filled about 14 candidates and it was not extremely bad, but for anyone 
looking to rank more candidates, I guess it might have been daunting. I agree 
that the dropdowns are a very inconvenient UI for this kind of votation. I can 
imagine something more efficient like having chips for every candidate (no 
dropdown), and then sequentially click on them to add them to the ballot in 
order, then maybe supporting drag and drop to re-order. Changing the order of 
candidates once the ballot is prepared is particularly cumbersome.

Best,

Mario
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