This is a short note that *the elections of the Movement Charter Drafting
Committee will close October 24, 23:59 Anywhere on Earth. This is in 3
hours*.
If you have not voted yet, but would like to do so, here is the link to the
landing page
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Elections>
.

Thank you for your kind attention and have a great week!
Kaarel

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 12:20 PM Dan Garry (Deskana) <djgw...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 10:10, Dan Garry (Deskana) <djgw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You're definitely right about that. SecurePoll is a mess. I was the
>> product lead for a project to improve it in 2014, and whilst we did manage
>> to make quite a few improvements to the functionality and management, we
>> only got a fraction done of what we wanted to, the tool is still sorely
>> deficient. There's documentation about the project
>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/SecurePoll_2014_Redesign>, if you're
>> interested. I'm not surprised that WMF leadership is very reluctant to
>> improve it, and if I were in their shoes, I'd be avoiding it, especially
>> since none of the people involved in the 2014 project work at the WMF
>> anymore.
>>
>> I think we need to get over the "not invested here"
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here> tendency when it comes
>> to running elections, and research to see if there's a good third-party
>> solution. I suspect we'd actually save money using a third-party solution
>> compared to trying to improve SecurePoll. I've not done a competitive
>> analysis, so I don't know what sorts of things are available, and maybe
>> there aren't any. But, at least, we should look.
>>
>
> Or, scope out designing a lightweight tool hosted on Toolforge or similar
> infrastructure, that integrates with the wikis and other data sources via
> the API, rather than actually being a MediaWiki extension. So many of the
> things that SecurePoll does (voter eligibility list generation,
> authentication, vote collection and collation, etc.) can be done using API
> integrations or data dumps; there's nothing instrinsic to it that requires
> it to be a MediaWiki extension, it was only done that way because that's
> the way we did everything back when. Developing a tool like that on
> Toolforge is so much easier and less complex than developing a MediaWiki
> extension. There's so many successful examples of this way of doing things;
> pageviews.toolforge.org is a good example.
>
> (Sorry for the follow-up email spam, the thought occurred to me as soon as
> I hit send.)
>
> Dan
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