Hi All - it is an interesting discussion to have and compare experiences. For smaller languages the situation is much worse both on the level of technology (DeepL covers only a few languages, GoogleTranslate gets worse) and communities (having less human resources to correct on wikis and train software off wiki).
I tried to propose Simple as proxy Wiki for CEE Spring 2021 translation competition, but it was suboptimal on many levels. If anyone wants to share notes on these topics and consider options it would be nice to see how to do it off list. Maybe on Wikimedia Chat https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia/channels/lost-in-translation Best Z. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:56 AM Ziko van Dijk <zvand...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello James, > Interesting, what extra tools you have there. > Andreas, in theory Simple English Wikipedia would be great as an > international platform for the dissemination of articles. But in > reality I have the impression that the content of S.E.WP is very > uneven, the quality is very diverse. > Galder, nice to hear of these initiatives and what is all possible in > a joint action. > Kind regards > Ziko > > Am Do., 16. Dez. 2021 um 19:59 Uhr schrieb James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com > >: > > > > Hey Ziko > > > > We have moved our medical translation efforts, such that MDWiki is our > starting point. > > > > https://mdwiki.org/wiki/WikiProjectMed:Translation_task_force > > > > 1) We have also encountered a reference template issue with CTX but have > built a work around. Our issue appears to relate to <ref name=ABC/> and the > same reference being used multiple times. What we do is we simply expand > all the metadata for each instance of the reference before feeding the text > into CTX. And then we have a bot that shortens all the instances of a > reference back to one. > > > > 2) One of the benefits of using MDWiki is it allows us to keep > references in the lead and use language that is easier to understand, but > not be forced to use language as easy as Simple English. It has also > allowed us to automatically generate a leaderboard to track progress and > impact of our translation efforts. Additionally we only encourage people to > translate the leads as that is only that has been medically checked for > accuracy. > https://mdwiki.toolforge.org/Translation_Dashboard/leaderboard.php > > > > Best > > James > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 5:34 AM Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Thanks, Ziko. Does anyone use Simple English Wikipedia as a basis for > their translations? > >> > >> I reckon DeepL – which is by far the best machine translation program > around, in the languages it covers – might do an even better job with those > (provided the Simple English article is itself of good quality, and worth > translating). > >> > >> Andreas > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, > guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/R7UQ4EUVVRFXYIYBQB6S25Y7SQQCIB2J/ > >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > > > -- > > James Heilman > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/I4QSZFVMBRVU7SBRYROJUMSR5RMQWYHA/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/NUTGNPULDEVOWA3KL4H5ZCHZKEH7H25M/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
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