Hi Ziko, Content on the Simple English Wikipedia is indeed very uneven. Though most of the project’s articles are stubs with not many issues, there are a lot of mid-size articles with sourcing and/or accuracy problems.
And given the nature of Simple English, our good articles are not really written in the same way that a good article in another language would necessarily be written, meaning that machine translation would likely require a lot more copyediting than usual to bring it to an acceptable level. For specifics, see: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_write_Simple_English_pages#Simple_sentence_structure Best regards, Vermont On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 03:55 Ziko van Dijk <zvand...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello James, > Interesting, what extra tools you have there. > Andreas, in theory Simple English Wikipedia would be great as an > international platform for the dissemination of articles. But in > reality I have the impression that the content of S.E.WP is very > uneven, the quality is very diverse. > Galder, nice to hear of these initiatives and what is all possible in > a joint action. > Kind regards > Ziko > > Am Do., 16. Dez. 2021 um 19:59 Uhr schrieb James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com > >: > > > > Hey Ziko > > > > We have moved our medical translation efforts, such that MDWiki is our > starting point. > > > > https://mdwiki.org/wiki/WikiProjectMed:Translation_task_force > > > > 1) We have also encountered a reference template issue with CTX but have > built a work around. Our issue appears to relate to <ref name=ABC/> and the > same reference being used multiple times. What we do is we simply expand > all the metadata for each instance of the reference before feeding the text > into CTX. And then we have a bot that shortens all the instances of a > reference back to one. > > > > 2) One of the benefits of using MDWiki is it allows us to keep > references in the lead and use language that is easier to understand, but > not be forced to use language as easy as Simple English. It has also > allowed us to automatically generate a leaderboard to track progress and > impact of our translation efforts. Additionally we only encourage people to > translate the leads as that is only that has been medically checked for > accuracy. > https://mdwiki.toolforge.org/Translation_Dashboard/leaderboard.php > > > > Best > > James > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 5:34 AM Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Thanks, Ziko. Does anyone use Simple English Wikipedia as a basis for > their translations? > >> > >> I reckon DeepL – which is by far the best machine translation program > around, in the languages it covers – might do an even better job with those > (provided the Simple English article is itself of good quality, and worth > translating). > >> > >> Andreas > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, > guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/R7UQ4EUVVRFXYIYBQB6S25Y7SQQCIB2J/ > >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > > > -- > > James Heilman > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/I4QSZFVMBRVU7SBRYROJUMSR5RMQWYHA/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/NUTGNPULDEVOWA3KL4H5ZCHZKEH7H25M/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ User:Vermont <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vermont> on Wikimedia projects they/them/theirs (why pronouns matter <https://www.mypronouns.org/what-and-why>)
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