Erik, I see your point now and agree with you. But doesn't it seem like obtaining a perfect license is at present the enemy of the urgent good of bringing a concerted effort to bear on problems that are clearly detrimental to project integrity?
I haven't been able to tell whether any of the people training truly FOSS LLMs are even working on models the size (in parameters or of the context window) of GPT-3. The cost of training such models is falling rapidly with various advances, but it might never fall below the several million dollar range. How would you characterize the harm of hosting BLOOM until a comparable FOSS model is available? Alternatively, is there a partnership solution to this problem within the Foundation's budget constraints? -LW On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 10:51 AM Erik Moeller <eloque...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 8:38 AM <petr.kad...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Downloading computer programs and electronic databases (and downloading for > > purposes outside > > the listed exception) requires an express consent of the copyright holder, > > i.e. a license. > > In other words, you _cannot_ download a GPL program without agreeing to the > > GPL > > The act of downloading a copyrighted work is, of course, covered by > copyright. But it does not follow that by downloading a work, you > agree to whatever terms the person offering it imagines you agreed to. > > If you want them to agree to those terms, you have to obtain that > agreement. Otherwise, if you publish your work freely (i.e. with > obvious intent to publish, not in some hidden directory on your > webserver), the permission to download the work is implied by you > publishing it. Or to put it another way, you can't publish and > advertise a website and then make a credible demand for 500 dollars > from anyone who clicks the link. Want 500 dollars? Ask for it on a > clickthrough form that makes it obvious what the buyer pays for. Want > people to agree to your ethical AI use restrictions? Ask for it before > you give them your model weights. > > Website terms of use are a gray area, but their enforceability is > limited (beyond defending your right to refuse service by blocking a > person from visiting your site) if you've not made their acceptance > sufficiently explicit. > > IANAL, so ask a lawyer if you don't believe me. :) > > Warmly, > Erik > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/T4DDD65ZJIK2JDBQCV4HE3KGHTJSUMGI/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/OL2FX2CLS5U4YLC2NMCYPX4E2FI3FYIF/ To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
