On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 8:49 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Toolhub is still something external!
>
> Let me introduce the point: the Research team has been working in great
> tools to help with editing. They made an exciting showcase in Wikimania.
> None of them are reachable while editing.
>
> We are here in the same case: the translate tool could accomodate a
> suggestion button that feeds from the varied tools we have.
>

I agree. To me it has always seemed odd that Mediawiki's *core interface*
has no large friendly button called "Tools".  It could lead by default to
project-space:Tools, i.e. to Wikipedia:Tools on Wikipedia. From then on,
it's up to the community to curate the page usefully, probably including
explaining about Toolforge and directing to its various directory
meta-tools.  But it's that first *invitation* and *discoverability* of the
very notion of tools that's missing, for even some experienced editors.

If some people agree, perhaps they'd be interested in starting a discussion
on Mediawiki.org making the case for it, addressing the (inevitable)
objections people may have, discussing the design and location of the
button, etc. I don't know if the Foundation's Product team has thoughts
about this, but even if it is not currently on any team's roadmap, it can
be useful to work out a proposal with broad community support for how it
could be done. The actual implementation would be technically simple, and
mostly a question of the skin design: location, spacing, mobile, etc.

   A.
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