Unfortunately, there’s a history of an overwhelming amount of vandals using VPNs to, well, vandalize Wikipedia, hence the block on known VPN and the bureaucracy surrounding them. If the block is removed, it’ll quite likely become a problem again. It really is a situation of people behaving poorly ruining it for everyone.
From, I dream of horses She/her > On Mar 19, 2024, at 12:17 PM, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l > <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > That doesn't seem logical or fair. If a user is registered and not already > blocked, the IPs they are using shouldn't matter at all. > > Personally, I've never used a VPN before I got it this way (even living in > the PRC), but I understand that some people might need to do so for privacy > reasons. So, this restriction should be removed. Registered users should have > the freedom to access the platform how they want. If there's an issue with a > specific user, it's more appropriate to block their username rather than > restricting their access when logged in based on IP addresses. Adding more > bureaucracy isn't the solution if there isn't a problem to begin with. > > In any case, nothing will probably change. But please don't say that VPN is a > solution. People have already enough problems that adding more and more > passages. > > Il martedì 19 marzo 2024 alle ore 19:51:42 CET, Neurodivergent Netizen > <idoh.idreamofhor...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > >> A few years ago, I acquired a VPN as part of an antivirus package. However, >> when I tried to use it for other services, I encountered an unexpected issue >> switching on wiki platforms: despite being there as a registered user, I >> found myself unable to edit them. >> >> So how can VPN be a solution? > > Right, you would’ve had to use IP block exemption, which would require some > level of trust from the community that you aren’t a vandal or other blocked > user trying to circumspect said block. > > From, > I dream of horses > She/her > > > > > >> On Mar 19, 2024, at 11:23 AM, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l >> <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >> Why is there so much discussion about using VPNs as a solution? A few years >> ago, I acquired a VPN as part of an antivirus package. However, when I tried >> to use it for other services, I encountered an unexpected issue switching on >> wiki platforms: despite being there as a registered user, I found myself >> unable to edit them. >> >> So how can VPN be a solution? >> >> A. >> >> Il martedì 19 marzo 2024 alle ore 18:17:52 CET, Saqib Qayyum >> <saqibqayy...@gmail.com> ha scritto: >> >> >> Hello Mr James >> >> Certainly, using a VPN is a workaround, but it's worth noting that obtaining >> an IP block exemption is still necessary to edit Commons, and this is not >> always feasible for all users. Many may not even be aware of its existence. >> For instance, I couldn't edit Commons since October 2020 until I discovered >> the option for IP ban exemption. . >> >> And because of this, contributions to Commons from Pakistan have >> significantly dwindled. For instance, I recall organizing Wiki Loves >> Monuments Pakistan from 2014, where we used to receive thousands of images >> annually. However, in recent years, the number of uploads has drastically >> declined, with only a maximum of 100 photos being uploaded each year. This >> trend underscores the challenges Pakistani users face in accessing and >> contributing to the site. >> -- >> Saqib Qayyum >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 9:55 PM James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jmh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Can you not just use a VPN? >> >> James >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 9:29 PM Saqib Qayyum <saqibqayy...@gmail.com >> <mailto:saqibqayy...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: >> >> I am writing to you as a concerned volunteer from Pakistan regarding a >> critical issue that has been persisting for several years now. Despite >> multiple attempts to communicate this matter to members of the WMF's >> communication team, there has been a disappointing lack of response or >> acknowledgment. >> >> For the past several years, Commons has been blocked in Pakistan. While >> Wikipedia was briefly blocked last year, the swift response from both >> Pakistani and international news media led to its unblocking. However, the >> blockade of Commons, being a less prominent site in comparison, has gone >> largely unnoticed. >> >> Furthermore, several journalists I have spoken to have also expressed >> frustration over their attempts to reach out to WMF staff regarding this >> issue, only to receive no response. >> >> I urge the WMF to prioritize this matter and take immediate action to >> address the ongoing blockage of Commons in Pakistan. >> >> Thank you for your attention to this urgent matter. >> -- >> Saqib Qayyum >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Saqib >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> <mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/H5SMMTKRTUI5QLDKOCLZNWCABGDK3UHL/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org> >> >> -- >> James Heilman >> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> <mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/53DBHAHGEAWIH5VI2X7YMEWYSWDHCBXM/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/SPUJHE3YFDHS2OBQT6KTJOFK7WOSGDZF/ >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org>_______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/RPS6LSQ7DFBOI2FVML4F2TYTKEUVPSFQ/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/CMD6ZMRBLVEYSLR7A5OREASGAJPPTB6T/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org>_______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/RWXA44WQNH2K4PVXLSDHCTBGQ3PR4JF7/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
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