Very big thank you Maciej for this additional analysis of the votes and
for the absolute clarity of its presentation. Very well done.
It is fascinating.
In any cases, it also indicates that the "un-education" with regards to
how this voting system works actually extend to all voters, whoever the
candidate they primarily voted upon. It does not seem to matter whether
they are from an under-represented community or not.
In completion to your ""1 candidate only" votes", I simply draw a
percentage of 1 candidate only compared to all #1 votes per candidate
It ranks from 7% (for Mohammed, Erik, Bobby, Rosie) to 23% (for
Lorenzo). With most percentages being between 7% to 15%
The highest percentages are for Maciej, Lorenzo and Farah.
So really... it is a very general issue. I do not think my comment here
is biaised. Voters just do not get it. That's it.
To be honest... I can not say that the "explanation" page provided ahead
of the elections is bringing much light :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/Single_Transferable_Vote
My biased comment is : it does not speak to me. I think the Sankey
diagram of this election only would speak more to most voters to
increase their skills.
After battle thought... do the most popular candidates have a sort of
special responsibility to call their fans to vote beyond their "hero" ?
As is... what if a candidate was asked in the "standard questions"
pre-election to provide a recommandation as to who they would love to
work with as board members (=suggest their voters to also vote for X and
Y).
Otherwise, two general trends, geography and gender (eg, one who voted
for a woman, is more likely to vote for another woman next), but we
already knew that from the previous graphic.
Flo
Le 19/10/2024 à 13:52, Wikipedysta Nadzik a écrit :
*Thank you everyone for all your congratulations, both here and in
private!*
Thanks to some unexpected free time, I created a summary of some
voting stats based on the publicly available vote dump
<https://vote.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/1638> (please
don't worry, it is impossible to see how any single person voted!).
*The stats are available here: User:Nadzik/BoT elections 2024 stats
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik/BoT_elections_2024_stats> on
Meta.*
Given my position in this process, I choose to refrain from commenting
on the data; I publish it and its visualisation without biased
commentary. I invite you to take a look at it and interpret it yourself.
I can only highlight that *some of the points mentioned above have a
basis in the available data.*
We also await for more data (i.e. voter turnout) to be published on
the official page
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2024/Stats>by
the WMF, which will give some more insights.
Cheers,
sob., 12 paź 2024 o 12:47 kayode yussuf via Wikimedia-l
<[email protected]> napisał(a):
Congratulations to the newly elected board members, and huge
thanks to those who chaperoned the process.
I must also second Florence's point on voters' education.
The board is an important instrument for the community and the
foundation, we must seek to get the best hands-on board, even if
we want minorities represented.
*Kayode Yussuf*
On Friday, October 11, 2024 at 07:46:58 PM EDT, Levi Kambai
Timothy <[email protected]> wrote:
Congrats to all elected board members. Hoping those who lost (both
the voters and the voted) will take note of the concerns including
low edit counts and improper voting to do better next time. It
will be good to have a movement with representatives from across
the globe, but then what they have to offer matters, too. Change
is a process, not a destination.
Warm regards,
Kambai
On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 at 22:01, Florence Devouard
<[email protected]> wrote:
I am not 100% sure I understand the graphic well. So please
correct me if I am wrong in my interpretation.
But the way I understand it, it seems to me that the issue #1
is that voters are un-educated about how to vote wisely in
such a voting system.
For example, let's consider the votes from those who voted for
Tesleemah. When she was dropped, 80 of the votes went down the
drain. That means 80 people voted either for her ONLY, or for
her and maybe Mohammed and Erik. That is IT.
Their vote was lost. I in fact suspect that she had a lot of
voters for her who actually put only her name and none others.
Maybe those voters did not understand how valuable it would
have been to put more names on their list.
I know that I realized that situation during the voting
process when some people told me that they had voted for
"their favorite choice". And when I said "you probably should
not vote for only one person but for several", they went
"Really ????"
The fact that 413 votes were lost all together as
non-transferable is certainly pointing out to a lack of
understanding of the process and how to make the best of the vote.
And maybe some communities understand this voting system
better than other communities.
My point #2 is that if under represented communities really
want to have a person on the board, they really need to adopt
a collective strategy where there will be only one candidate
for it to avoid spreading thin.
OR, if they have two (or more), they need to push the idea
that the people voting for them should also put a vote for the
other, for the rank immediately below, rather than only for
their favorite choice amongst the two (obviously, they should
vote for the two only if both options are acceptable in their
book). This would ensure the vote to be transferred to the
second when their fav choice is eliminated.
Looks to me that the issue might be rethinking on how to teach
voters how to vote strategically.
And maybe... maybe... though it is a "decrease of liberty", it
should be made mandatory to rank at least half of the candidates ?
Flo
Le 11/10/2024 à 11:49, Philip Kopetzky a écrit :
Well, congratulations to 4 people living in Western Europe.
If this result doesn't get the Wikimedia Foundation to
rethink their approach to how they select their board
members, I don't know what will.
I guess it's up to communities, affiliates and regional
structures to create the change we want to see, noe more than
ever.
On Fri, 11 Oct 2024, 11:38 Katie Chan, <[email protected]> wrote:
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Hello all,
Thank you to everyone who participated in the 2024
Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2024>.
6000 community members from more than 180 wiki projects
have voted.
The following four candidates were the most voted:
* Christel Steigenberger
* Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz
* Victoria Doronina
* Lorenzo Losa
While these candidates have been ranked through the vote,
they still need to be appointed to the Board of Trustees.
They need to pass a successful background check and meet
the qualifications outlined in the Bylaws. New trustees
will be appointed at the next Board meeting in December 2024.
Read the full announcement on Meta-Wiki
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2024/Announcement/Results(long_version)>
Best regards,
The Elections Committee and Board Selection Working Group
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