Hmmm.

Steven, we have Wikimedia Canada, which is larger than Cascadia and includes 
multiple provinces. If the Chapters Committee approved Wikimedia Canada then 
I'm not sure how they could cite geography as a reason against a Wikimedia 
Cascadia with the exception of overlap into another nation's territory.

James, would you also have opposed Wikimedia Canada on the same grounds that 
you cite here?

Thanks,

Pine

From: jameso...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:59:41 -0800
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-SF] WM Cascadia chapter discussion tonight
To: wikimedia-sf@lists.wikimedia.org
CC: deyntest...@hotmail.com

Also not totally sure If I'll be able to make it or not but have generally made 
my belief known that broad spanding chapters like this are not a good idea 
overall. In addition to the concerns from Steven below I just think that the 
requirements and desires of groups in Alaska, Oregon, California etc are too 
different. Yes I know that there are large countries with single chapters but 
even there the work is really generally segregated to one area of the country 
and not the whole place. I would be strongly against a chapter this big but a 
user group of people interested is <shrugs> fine.


James 

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Steven Walling <steven.wall...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:35 PM, ENWP Pine <deyntest...@hotmail.com> wrote:




Tonight in #wikimedia-us at 6 PM Pacific will be the next Wikimedia US meeting. 
Included on the agenda is discussion of the proposed Wikimedia Cascadia chapter.





Possible geography for the Chapter includes California, Oregon, Washington, 
Idaho, Montana, and Alaska until such time as some of these areas have more 
localized chapters. Also under discussion is asking WM-Canada to share British 
Columbia with WM-Cascadia.





Please join the discussion in #wikimedia-us, 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Cascadia, and/or 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Cascadia.





Anyone who is interested in discussing a potential chapter that would include 
the Bay area, please join the discussion!

Pine


I may not be able to make it, but wanted to express interest and bring up one 
point of discussion... 
In the past, I have informally asked Chapter Committee members about the 
possibility of a chapter like this. I was told with no equivocation that 
chapters which officially spanned multiple municipalities were forbidden, and 
that we could have a Wikimedia Oregon, Washington, or California only because 
we would have to pick a state in which to become officially incorporated in and 
be responsible for. 




My suggestion would be to avoid seeking official chapter status, and instead 
form a group like Wikimedia Cascadia as a user group or thematic organization. 




Steven 

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