SJ, thanks for your much better-informed post, ours crossed in the mail, I'd have left it to you if I knew that was coming!
To all, I would suggest you ignore my post in deference to his. I do want to say, I think you've misunderstood me in a couple places (probably my fault for not being clear) -- most significantly, it wasn't my intent to judge anyone, or or make assumptions about what they say; overall, I was really just trying to make the same point you did (that chapters are not the only way to organize), only I did it much less eloquently. Again though, to all -- the best thing would probably be to ignore my post, as the one SJ wrote about the same time covers the issue much better. Pete On Dec 19, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote: > > * Chapters historically came into existence to (1) process donations in local > currency and (2) deal with local legal issues > > I would say it is more > (3) provide an organization that could handle local partnerships and > communication: with content and promotion and other targeted projects. The > sort of thing that the WMF explicitly leaves to other entities, by virtue of > not accepting targeted donations. > > * The difficulty of forming a chapter that doesn't conform to legal borders > has caused tension in recent years > > This was feared but has not been true in practice. (It was an issue of > forming an incorporated entity, period, not specific to a chapter.) > > * The WMF Board and many in the community are aware and concerned about this > > Not sure... concerned about what here? The explicit recognition of other > entities was to avoid forcing groups into a narrow mould in order to be > recognized as a stable part of the movement. It wasn't in response to issues > with geographic groups that weren't national; it was in to recognize the > majority of groups that are not geographic at all. > > * The general solution is not so much to adapt the Chapter model to fit other > cases, as to establish that other cases are fine *without* carrying the name > "chapter". > > The Wikimedia movement has a new approach to funds dissemination; being a > chapter is not the only way to get grants or put the name "Wikipedia" (or > "Wikimedia" etc.) to good use. > > Yes. > > In other words, just because the CHAPTERS committee > > There is no longer a chapters committee; it is now the Affiliations Committee > :) And please don't judge what they /might/ think; just ask them. > > SJ > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com 503-383-9454 mobile
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