Well, I tried to upload some material in lieu of a full writeup, but I got this:
"Fatal error: Call to undefined method UploadFromFile::initialize() in /srv/www/www.wikimedia.org.au/html/w/includes/upload/UploadFromFile.php on line 17" Are uploads disabled/broken at the moment? Cheers, Craig -----Original Message----- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Ewart Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 8:50 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year? Craig, please, please, please do write up on the wiki what you've been doing. I think it's very important for the chapter's health to see what members are achieving in their local communities. On 5/5/10, Craig Franklin <cr...@halo-17.net> wrote: > Well, there's stuff going on. My little "Wikipedia in the Classroom" > project has been boiling away pretty nicely (I really ought to update the > page on the chapter site about that.), but it's mainly foundation-building > stuff that'll let us pull of bigger things in the future. > > > > And as for grants, again, the outlay for my project has been about $20 so > far, which included my petrol to drive to the venues and to purchase some > mints to hand out. You don't need a big fat grant to pull off something > worthwhile. > > > > Cheers, > > Craig > > > > From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org > [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of private > musings > Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 7:30 PM > To: Wikimedia-au > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year? > > > > 'Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to > engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through > application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the > proposed project will be run' > > - totally agree with this- and agree that it's a large stretch to try and > get anything completed before the deadline - whether or not it's worth > trying is a different question, I guess :-) > > 'I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and > get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted > out as carefully as possible before submitting applications' > > - totally agree with this too - again, it does seem unlikely to be able to > get this all done ahead of the deadline - I guess I wish discussions and > activity had kicked off earlier - though that's largely down to us as a > membership - hopefully we can get the ball rolling anyways ahead of future > grant applications etc. > > > 'Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for > him to be globally banned' > > - this is not accurate - Jimbo never called me a troll, nor did he call for > me to be globally banned - please take greater care in raising comments > about me personally as oppose to my posts.... however; > > 'PM is really not an appropriate person to lead the chapter in requests to > the WMF for not-insignificant amounts of money' > > - sure ;-) - as I mentioned I'd rather just try and help / chivvy / expedite > existing efforts - my concern is to make sure that something happens - I'm > concerned that we're heading for a pretty poor report card for the first > half of 2010, and would like to help avoid that :-) > > cheers, > > Peter, > > PM. > > > > > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Sarah Ewart <sarahew...@gmail.com> wrote: > > To be entirely frank, I would have to agree that given both the long > term and recent "controversies" throughout WMF universe which > culminated in Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for > him to be globally banned, PM is really not an appropriate person to > lead the chapter in requests to the WMF for not-insignificant amounts > of money. However, I don't have a problem with him suggesting > potential projects and then seeing how others feel about them and > whether they gel with other projects people are currently involved in. > > I attended the session on grants at the chapters meeting in Berlin (my > notes are up on the wiki here- > http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/2010_chapters_meeting/Sarahs_notes#Working > _group:_Volunteers > <http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/2010_chapters_meeting/Sarahs_notes#Working > _group:_Volunteers> ) > and we discussed the final date for grant applications and Eric made > it clear that while May 15 is listed as the deadline, it's more like a > preferred date. If applications are in by then they'll be processed > more quickly, but we're welcome to submit applications after that > date. > > Last year we had to pay back a grant a chapter member requested for an > outreach conference they wanted to run because it fell through and > didn't end up going ahead. Paying back the funds was a real headache > for the committee (especially for Brian as the then-treasurer) and it > took a considerable amount of time to resolve with the foundation. I > don't want to see this happen again so I'd oppose any moves to rush > through any ill-considered applications just to get them in before May > 15 or that seem more orientated on getting money for the sake of it or > for the simple stated purpose of engaging with the grant process. > Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to > engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through > application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the > proposed project will be run. If we have to pay back another grant, > it's going to reflect very poorly on the chapter so this isn't > something that should just be slapped together at the last minute. > > I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and > get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted > out as carefully as possible before submitting applications. > > > > On 5/5/10, Andrew <orderinchao...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'll be straight up and state I'm not going to support this, for a variety >> of reasons. >> >> Firstly, I don't think our chapter is capable of producing a grant >> application to the standard WMF require for such a big area (education) in >> 10 days that addresses all the things WMF expect us to address. >> >> Secondly, this appears to be trying to reinvent the wheel. Craig's project >> up in Brisbane is already making significant advances, at least three > other >> chapter members have made contacts with (or have been contacted by) >> educational departments and representative associations, and completed >> resources already in use in schools exist in other languages from other >> chapters - I'm presently trying to secure translations of these on behalf > of >> the chapter. Without any attempt to coordinate the various approaches, > we're >> not only less effective but also give the outward appearance of being >> disorganised to the various educational bodies involved. >> >> Thirdly, given your recent conflict with, among other people, Jimbo Wales >> and various concerns about past occasions when you have undertaken chapter >> work (in particular the Dictionary of Sydney episode), I do not think you >> personally should be making any outward representation of our chapter and, >> if the grant were to be approved, I think someone else should lead it. >> >> kindest regards >> Andrew >> >> On 5 May 2010 11:46, private musings <thepmacco...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> G'day all, >>> >>> does the chapter have any grants proposals heading in this year? >>> >>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index >>> >>> Do we have any structure for creating / supporting a chapter grant like >>> this? >>> >>> I have a few ideas and opportunities - for wiki use in education, >>> hopefully >>> in partnership with nsw dep. of ed. - if I write something up in the next >>> week or so, I suppose we could discuss it on our wiki, and forward it to >>> the >>> grants page linked above for consideration if appropriate? >>> >>> I think it's important for a functioning healthy chapter to try to engage >>> with processes like this, so if you too have any ideas or opportunities, >>> please do pipe up, and let's work on them on the wiki, and get them going >>> :-) >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Peter, >>> PM. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > > > _______________________________________________ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l _______________________________________________ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
