Hi, I guess we need to do a photo categorization drive on Commons like the tag & assess drive we're doing for wikiproject India.
Pradeep Handheld On Mar 13, 2012 7:15 PM, "Ashwin Baindur" <ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote: > The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of > hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown > others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the > photothon never get realised. > > The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end > only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good > images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands "[[waiting for > Godot]]". > > Warm regards, > > Ashwin Baindur > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan > <srik....@gmail.com>wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 16:47, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> what amount of Back end work was done >> >> >> Backend work is key for any photo / GLAM event Using Hisham's words, "its >> not sexy stuff" :P. Its not about uploading 1000's of images, but the real >> value is had only when they are used on relevant pages. At the very least >> the file should have proper meta data so that some day some one will find >> them useful. >> >> 2 Things are important when it comes to Photo events from the perspective >> of Wikipedia. >> >> 1. Usage :- >> >> Efforts must be made to use as many uploaded files as possible in the >> articles. Yes, we can only tell others to upload the file to commons, >> asking someone who is attending first photo walk / uploading to commons for >> the first time to also add it on article may be little too much. So >> Wikipedians must take onus in ensuring media uploaded is being used and not >> unused. >> >> Most of us fall for numbers which are visible at the outset and feel >> happy about these kind of events.I would say Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 1 which >> added only 89 files is successful than Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2 which added >> 628 files after I check the usage stats[1]. You can also do an audit for >> the event you organized / participated. The numbers are abysmally low for >> all, which in some sense means the effectiveness of these events in terms >> of tangible value to Wiki Projects are lesser (Of course there are other >> benefits, like networking, community socializing etc etc) >> >> If on goes by numbers visible at outset, TamilWiki Media Contest might be >> most successful of all hunts with 15k files. It even fares well usage stats >> with 51%, but if one goes little deeper the actual usage that was added >> manually(Wiktionary auto adds pronunciation files, so excluding those) its >> just around 20% (which is great for the kind of numbers, but >> still). Wikipedia_Takes_Chennai is probably most successful event with 87% >> usage, but jokes apart Malayalam_loves_Wikimedia_event_-_2011_April has >> done well to get 28% (with 2157 images). [It is bound to be high, since the >> ratio of Wikipedians : Newbies is high in Malayalam projects generally] >> >> Of Course all these photo hunts will have same images, so its not >> possible to get to 100%, but it should be atleast 40% for it to call a >> decent success. >> >> 2. Naming and meta data :- >> >> A. Categorize properly. (or Fix it) >> B. English Description (or Add it) >> C. Get the naming right. (or Fix it) >> >> 3 things that we see as leanings from Tamil media contest. Categorizing >> is almost done with very few left uncategorized. The result of >> which(categorization) is visible here when a Norwegian wikipedian uses >> it[3] :) We do plan to fix 2 and 3 for large number of files over course of >> next few months, any help welcome :) >> >> Commons folks can give more tips here. TWMC report will have a detailed >> section on learnings / best practices. >> >> On a another note, I wonder why no one posted this to the list, but there >> has been Marathi Photothon and some 1300+ media files were uploaded[4], >> which is great, but just that they chose not to use commons and use the >> local wiki instead (bad idea, some Norwegian wikipedian cant use those :( ) >> There were some wonderful shots of NH4 as well as some copyvios which I >> found in a quick glance. Ideally only fair use images must be uploaded to >> local wiki's and CC-BY-SA files are best uploaded to commons since projects >> across wikimedia universe can use it. >> >> Thanks for reading through. >> >> [1] http://toolserver.org/~magnus/glamorous.php >> [2] >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photo_scavenger_hunts_in_India >> >> [3] >> http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Natkeeran#Found_a_picture_thanks_to_the_competition >> >> [4] http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:फोटोथोन_-_२०१२ >> >> -- >> Regards >> Srikanth.L >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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