Thanks for that suggestion, Srikanth! I agree, having these useful comments on the discussion page of the request is very helpful for the rest of the community.
Cheers, Alex On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikant...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, I request all of you to take the discussion to the Grant talk page > on Meta where it would be more visible and useful for others going thru the > proposal. > > -- > Srikanth. > http://bestpedia.in > On 22-Aug-2015 8:10 pm, "sankarshan" <foss.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Ashwin Baindur >> <ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Request the views of more editors on this proposal. Guys, Santanu took >> > the trouble to give us a detailed proposal, at least lets do him the >> > courtesy of giving our views, whatever these may be. >> >> I went through the proposal in small chunks primarily to think through >> this. I am not an editor and so the views may or, may not be relevant. >> In no particular order, here are a few comments. >> >> [+] The proposal states "The main purpose of Wikipedia Treks Kalindi >> Khal is to increase the material related to Himalayan Range with a >> free license in Wikimedia Commons and improve the quality and increase >> the amount of articles about diversifying Garhwal Himalayan mountain >> range and other respective variety in different languages in >> Wikipedia. Also to raise awareness among various community chapters, >> motivate them to contribute to the Wikimedia projects and organize >> this kind of trekking expedition in future." >> >> This is in fact 3 specific objectives - (a) collect material on the >> region covered by this trek; (b) generate awareness within the >> chapters; (c) establish the feasibility of a similar activity by >> accruing more value than consumed >> >> [+] The proposal states "Currently this project is focused on Global >> south region which will Improve editor diversity by recruiting new >> editors from this particular target group." >> >> But doesn't specifically mention the target group or, the methodology >> of recruiting new editors >> >> [+] "Trekking or hiking is extremely well liked adventure sports >> through the globe and it will be enormously easier to find like-minded >> open source and free knowledge organizations and initiatives with whom >> we can collaborator with" >> >> A few examples of such organizations would have been a good thing to >> have at this point. Primarily to estimate the willingness of the said >> organizations to contribute to knowledge under a free (or, liberal) >> license. Anecdotal experience indicates that organizations have their >> own rationale and quirks when engaging in collaborative ventures and >> prior handshakes are required to ensure specific outcomes >> >> [+] "This Wikipedia Treks Kalindi Khal will be the first major public >> activity of its kind and will be pivotal in the increased uptake of >> Wikimedia projects by the populace of the extreme lands in India." >> >> The simplest question for this line of reasoning is "How?". "Extreme >> lands" would indicate a set of constraints that are unique and perhaps >> primary among those being the awareness of the utility value of >> Wikipedia itself. The proposal does not go on to elaborate how it is >> planned to be addressed >> >> [+] "This team of WTM comprises total nine members; among them three >> wikipedians and a female wikipedian volunteer is involved. We expect >> another three non wikipedian experienced trek member to be converted >> into volunteers. >> After the completion of trek, there will be three edit-a-thons, for >> new editors, where they will be educated with proper guidance, >> follow-up and mentorship." >> >> It would be nice to have a draft idea of what can be documented. This >> can be in the form of stub pages which can be filled out later during >> the edit-a-thons or, an assessment of the gaps in the existing content >> around the region to be covered by the trek thus creating a handy >> guide to what needs to be added. This pre-expedition exercise could >> also serve as a metric of success of such ventures >> >> [+] "Wikimedia Commons has an insignificant representation of >> mountains and peaks along with the species, flora and fauna in the >> complete Himalayan range. The available images are of moderate to >> acceptable quality. Wikipedia Treks Kalindi Khal aims to improve the >> coverage of the Himalayan range by encouraging people (including >> professional photographers) to take and donate quality images under >> free licenses to the Wikimedia Commons database." >> >> The proposal does not mention whether the current team does comprise >> of individuals who are proficient in skills of photography and would >> contribute (not 'donate') images of higher resolution and greater >> variety to Commons >> >> [+] "Increasing Wikimedia's participation in the remotest places (Mana >> Village, the last village of India) is one of the salient points of >> Wikipedia Treks Kalindi Khal. Garhwal Himalaya is crucial to this >> objective, as a key hub for the whole range of Himalaya. Since the >> Internet penetrations in these areas are low, the end results will be >> less satisfactory. Henceforth, the initial impact will increase >> awareness." >> >> And again, "How?" The proposal misses an unique opportunity to provide >> creative solutions while attempting to increase awareness of Wikipedia >> (and related projects) in areas that are mostly off-the-internet. >> Also, if the awareness campaign is successful, what are the planned >> next steps which can be looked into? >> >> [+] "Encourage Innovation" >> >> This specific topic could do with a revisit. The current shape of the >> content does not indicate any innovating practices or, approaches. >> >> /s >> >> -- >> sankarshan mukhopadhyay >> <https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > -- Alexandra Wang Program Officer Project & Event Grants Wikimedia Foundation <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home> +1 415-839-6885 Skype: alexvwang
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