Being a participant of the first TTT in 2013 and also having the privilege to attend some of the previous TTTs in recent years, I personally see that the diversity has increased in the previous years. Comparing the percentage of participants listing projects other than Wikipedia as their primary project in a glance, I see an increase from ~20% in 2019 to ~38% in 2020 and this includes participants from previously not represented projects such as Wikimedia Commons, Wikivoyage and Wikibooks.
Looking at these numbers, I feel the selection process has been evolving for the better. Best Satdeep On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 7:15 AM Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Indeed. And specifically, "they did not pick me, therefore the > criteria are not good" is a very immature statement to make. So far we > have not seen anything to suggest there is a genuine problem with the > criteria used. > > A. > > Asaf Bartov (he/him/his) > > Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities > > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the > sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! > https://donate.wikimedia.org > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 2:48 AM Subhashish <psubhash...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm not sure if this discussion should even happen in a public list like >> this in the first place. The Jan. 20 version here [1] mentions the criteria >> before the announcement went public. When it can be debated how the >> criteria can be improved to be more inclusive (let's say, "someone who has >> participated in any TTT in last three/four years will not be eligible to >> apply", lack of transparency is not something it reflects). >> >> Selection of candidates is a complex process and it leaves many unhappy >> as everyone looks at it from a different perspective. It actually looks >> like a happy situation and not depressing, to see three names against >> Kannada in this list [2] while there are only two participants from Marathi >> when the event is happening in Maharashtra. :-) It's important to note that >> just eligibility does not guarantee selection, especially when the number >> of applicants is more. The content in the application submitted by the >> applicant plays a huge role too. When a jury looks at the selection >> criteria to select the candidates, they might not share a detailed reason >> why they rejected a candidate. Out of many reasons, one can be the simple >> fact that sharing the reasons of rejection might just offend the applicant >> and the latter may feel discouraged to apply again. Not everyone would take >> rejection the same way. >> >> I'd concur with Ravi about assuming good faith here too. Maybe the >> discussion can be to improve TTT in other aspects and not necessarily >> transparency in application selection. >> >> 1. >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=CIS-A2K/Events/Train_the_Trainer_Program/2020&oldid=19730890#Eligibility_criteria >> 2. >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CIS-A2K/Events/Train_the_Trainer_Program/2020#Participants >> >> Subha >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 12:37 AM Tito Dutta <trulyt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for your messages, and thanks for assuming good faith. Yes, we >>> tried ensuring region, gender, language, and other things. The candidates >>> were selected after recommendations of jury members. 24 members were >>> selected over-all. 1 person could not attend for some reason. So we have 23 >>> participants. >>> Today it was the second day of TTT, and it has been a busy day. Someone >>> of us will get back to you in a few days. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Tito Dutta >>> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to >>> remind me over email or phone call. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 20:22, Ravishankar <ravidre...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Please assume some good faith. >>>> >>>> Even if all 60 candidates who applied are eligible, they still need to >>>> select 25 people. >>>> >>>> Even if only two people are selected from each community, it can easily >>>> fill the 25 seats. >>>> >>>> The selection criteria listed by CIS-A2K is good. >>>> >>>> May be they can also display how they ensured diversity in terms of >>>> gender, region, language, wiki project, and wiki age of the candidates. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:44 PM Vishwanatha Badikana < >>>> badikan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good luck. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 6:20 PM subodh kulkarni <subodhki...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Wikimedians, >>>>>> >>>>>> We are thankful for the response to TTT this year. We received total >>>>>> 60 applications, out of which 25 participants were selected. >>>>>> >>>>>> Two jury members from the community and A2K team selected the >>>>>> participants. The selection criterion were as follows - >>>>>> >>>>>> - Wikimedian from India >>>>>> - Minimum 800 edits on zero-namespace before 31 December 2019. >>>>>> - Should not be previous TTT participant >>>>>> - Should be active recently, for last one year preferably (Aware >>>>>> about present active community and happenings) >>>>>> - Who has the interest to conduct offline/real-life Wiki events >>>>>> and to train others. >>>>>> - Should not be too experienced (already leading the community or >>>>>> user groups or any affiliate) >>>>>> - Should not be involved in any vandalism, abuse etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks & regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> A2K team >>>>>> Centre for Internet & Society - Access to Knowledge Programme >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 10:07 AM <pavan...@vishvakannada.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think this email did not reach the India mailing list. Hence I am >>>>>>> fwd-ing it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pavanaja >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Vishwanatha Badikana <badikan...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2020 3:26 PM >>>>>>> *To:* kishoresheni69 <kishoreshen...@gmail.com>; Pavanaja U B < >>>>>>> pavan...@gmail.com>; Bharathesha A B <bhar...@gmail.com>; Dr. >>>>>>> Manavpreet Kaur <dr.manavpreetk...@gmail.com>; Kavitha Ganesh < >>>>>>> gkav...@gmail.com>; Dhanalakshmi K. T. <lakshmik...@gmail.com>; >>>>>>> Rohini Lakshané <rohini.laksh...@gmail.com>; Kannada Wikipedia >>>>>>> Discussion List <wikik...@lists.wikimedia.org>; Wikimedia India >>>>>>> Community list <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>; >>>>>>> subodhki...@gmail.com; Vikas Hegde <vikashegd...@gmail.com>; vinoda >>>>>>> jaya prasad <vinu.jayapra...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> *Subject:* Fwd: Update about TTT selection >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What is going on the TTT Selection. I don't want future TTT >>>>>>> selection. The Kannada Community members depressed. I think the >>>>>>> selection >>>>>>> committee have lot of politics. Who are the selection committee? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>> From: *subodh kulkarni* <subodhki...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 22:14 >>>>>>> Subject: Update about TTT selection >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear applicant, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are thankful for showing interest to participate in TTT 2020. We >>>>>>> are sorry to inform you that your application was not selected in the >>>>>>> process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We value your contribution to the Wikimedia movement and looking >>>>>>> forward to work with you in future. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subodh Kulkarni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> on behalf of >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Centre for Internet & Society - Access to Knowledge Programme >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Dr. Vishwanatha Badikana* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Assistent Professor, Department of Kannada* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *St. Aloysius College(Autonomous), Light House Hill, Mangalore - 575 >>>>>>> 003* >>>>>>> *9449615474, 9141676453*, 8618361841 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *badikan...@gmail.com <badikan...@gmail.com>* >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > -- Satdeep Gill (pronouns - he, him) Program Officer GLAM and Underrepresented Knowledge Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
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