I agree. It rushed towards a conclusion without caring about questions and
discussion. There was not much good faith assumed as well, in my opinion.

(My opinion is in personal capacity)
--User:Titodutta

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 7:34 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <kcvel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Firstly, I would like to condemn this email from a person named “Arvind
> Menon” - this email is very much a personal attack on me, to misguide a
> community member, character assasination and to defame, all using a fake
> profile. If the person is actually seeking any information for community
> benefit, as Piyush rightly pointed, it would be helpful to know the
> person’s Wikimedia identity, and their work. Otherwise, this can merely be
> regarded as an ad hominem attack, which has happened several times in the
> past on this mailing list.
>
> Before I go into details, I have been very disturbed by this email, as
> several people were asking me, and I was pressurised. I personally request
> community members to look for authenticity before considering anything. I
> fear this might become a practice to target people just by creating fake
> profiles/emails, and wrongfully nameshaming them on public platforms,
> without complete understanding.
>
> Regarding my role with WMF, firstly, there was a contract, but I did not
> have any employment, and do not hold any. There has been public
> documentation about it, and stating there wasn't any is untrue. All the
> relevant details+evidence will be put forward. I have asked WMF support
> regarding the same, and they would be giving further on this shortly
> (probably in a day or two) after this email.
>
> I would like to particularly focus on the WikiConference India part. My
> relation with WMF has nothing to do with the grant, and no benefit of the
> same has been applied in either of the contexts. Though initially people
> expressed concerns, many of them, after clarifying, went on to support the
> proposal, and it gained more than 40 endorsements
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/WikiConference_India_2020#Endorsements>
> from community members, which shows the community is in favour of the
> proposal and the conference. WMF comments were not against it. We created
> FAQs
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/WikiConference_India_2020#FAQs>
> on the grant page itself to help community members understand the reasons
> behind it, and even all the questions on talk page were answered. We also
> mentioned that “all bills worth valuing more than ₹30,000.00 will be
> publicly published” - this demonstrates transparency, in an attempt to
> establish a new practice. Anyway, the entire Conference and Event Grants
> program has been paused due to COVID-19 pandemic, and none of the proposals
> forwarded from the initial stage.
>
> I provided clarification even though the initial email doesn’t address me
> or respectfully seeks any information. I am taking this effort to provide
> detailed clarification, for the sake of community members and understanding
> only. This email, though posted by a fake profile, created great stress,
> and almost spoiled my entire day. I once again request the community to be
> careful of random postings with unidentifiable identities. I wonder if
> there is any way further such personal attacks can be avoided, towards any
> community member.
>
> Regards,
>
> Krishna Chaitanya V.
>
> On Sun, 14 Jun 2020, 20:55 Piyush Maurya, <piyush93...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Arvind,
>>
>> There are many cases where WMF appointed someone for x community and
>> community didn't know nothing about it until the process is over.
>>
>> Transparency is lacking in the foundation's working environment. If you
>> share your username or what you do in the Wikimedia projects it will give
>> your comments some value.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Piyush
>> (User:हिंदुस्थान वासी)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Jun 2020, 4:50 pm Arvind Menon, <tnkp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The individual grantee for Wikiconference India 2020 grant had secretly
>>> done a WMF Contract job with the Community Program Team some month ago.
>>> There was no public announcement for the job so I believe no selection
>>> process or hidden selection and no public documentation that he was
>>> working. My question is why was he given the job depriving other community
>>> members from India who want to work but apply and get rejected. What was
>>> the need of WMF to hide the process by not informing or documenting.
>>>
>>> So on Wikiconference India grant WMF was applying to WMF and WMF was
>>> going to accept WMF grant. Atleast from WMF grant comments it looks because
>>> community blamed grant taking so much money.
>>>
>>> To me, this is utter misuse of power and abuse of donation money.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
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