Then the statement should have been more honest... On Sep 29, 2012 9:41 PM, "Thomas Dalton" <thomas.dal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it is fairly obvious that this was a WMF decision. > On Sep 29, 2012 9:33 PM, "James Farrar" <james.far...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Whoever decided that UK donations to the fundraiser wouldn't be Gift Aid >> eligible. According to the statement, that's both WMF and WMUK. >> On Sep 29, 2012 8:59 PM, "WereSpielChequers" <werespielchequ...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> James, if you are accusing a charity of throwing away money could you be >>> specific as to which charity you are accusing of throwing away money? >>> >>> I'm not aware of any of WMUK's financial decisions being disputed. >>> >>> By contrast the WMF by processing the payments for this years fundraiser >>> will lose the movement as a whole hundreds of thousands of pounds. This is >>> partly because they are not a UK registered charity and WMUK is, so Gift >>> Aid of probably more than £100,000 won't be achieved, but I suspect that >>> even more will be lost because as a US organisation they can't collect by >>> direct debits. Over the next few decades that will lose the movement >>> several times as much as the foregone Gift Aid money. >>> >>> However the WMF doesn't have a formal membership structure, or at least >>> not one I'm aware of. So were you suggesting that WMUK has been throwing >>> away money? >>> >>> WSC >>> >>> On 29 September 2012 13:20, James Farrar <james.far...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Indeed, and for now I remain a member. >>>> >>>> This is subject to finding out precisely why the charity is voluntarily >>>> throwing away money. >>>> On Sep 28, 2012 11:11 PM, "Deryck Chan" <deryckc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There is, an will always be, the option to donate to WMUK rather than >>>>> WMF even if WMUK isn't the default payment processor anymore. >>>>> >>>>> What I can certainly see is a fragmented 2012 fundraiser, with certain >>>>> donors staying with WMUK and others switching to WMF because that's where >>>>> the default landing page now points them to. Lots of returning donors will >>>>> be very very confused either because they can't gift-aid their donations, >>>>> or because two "Wikipedia organisations" are asking for their money at the >>>>> same time. >>>>> >>>>> On 28 September 2012 22:50, James Farrar <james.far...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well, there goes my donation. >>>>>> On Sep 28, 2012 9:16 PM, "David Gerard" <dger...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 28 September 2012 21:14, Chris Keating < >>>>>>> chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > I'd like to draw to your attention this joint statement with the >>>>>>> Foundation >>>>>>> > which I have just, with the authority of the Board, posted on our >>>>>>> blog >>>>>>> > regarding the management of conflicts of interests and this year's >>>>>>> > fundraiser. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/joint-statement-from-wikimedia-foundation-and-wikimedia-uk/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right, so money->SF and so much for Gift Aid? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - d. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>>>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>>>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >
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