On 29 September 2012 20:58, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequ...@gmail.com>wrote:
> James, if you are accusing a charity of throwing away money could you be > specific as to which charity you are accusing of throwing away money? > > I'm not aware of any of WMUK's financial decisions being disputed. > > By contrast the WMF by processing the payments for this years fundraiser > will lose the movement as a whole hundreds of thousands of pounds. This is > partly because they are not a UK registered charity and WMUK is, so Gift > Aid of probably more than £100,000 won't be achieved, but I suspect that > even more will be lost because as a US organisation they can't collect by > direct debits. Over the next few decades that will lose the movement > several times as much as the foregone Gift Aid money. > Indeed. Lesson here: WMF would prefer to lose 30% of its UK income than risk a PR scandal in the UK. I'm not sure when we (they?) have become so cash-strapped and image-conscious. > > However the WMF doesn't have a formal membership structure, or at least > not one I'm aware of. So were you suggesting that WMUK has been throwing > away money? > > WSC > > > On 29 September 2012 13:20, James Farrar <james.far...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Indeed, and for now I remain a member. >> >> This is subject to finding out precisely why the charity is voluntarily >> throwing away money. >> On Sep 28, 2012 11:11 PM, "Deryck Chan" <deryckc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> There is, an will always be, the option to donate to WMUK rather than >>> WMF even if WMUK isn't the default payment processor anymore. >>> >>> What I can certainly see is a fragmented 2012 fundraiser, with certain >>> donors staying with WMUK and others switching to WMF because that's where >>> the default landing page now points them to. Lots of returning donors will >>> be very very confused either because they can't gift-aid their donations, >>> or because two "Wikipedia organisations" are asking for their money at the >>> same time. >>> >>> On 28 September 2012 22:50, James Farrar <james.far...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, there goes my donation. >>>> On Sep 28, 2012 9:16 PM, "David Gerard" <dger...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 28 September 2012 21:14, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > I'd like to draw to your attention this joint statement with the >>>>> Foundation >>>>> > which I have just, with the authority of the Board, posted on our >>>>> blog >>>>> > regarding the management of conflicts of interests and this year's >>>>> > fundraiser. >>>>> > >>>>> http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/joint-statement-from-wikimedia-foundation-and-wikimedia-uk/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Right, so money->SF and so much for Gift Aid? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - d. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >
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