Also, I was reading the results of the usability survey for wikipedia,
and i think lots of the problems discussed there with the help
information being too much information all at once without getting the
important information across, rings true here as well.

-bawolff



On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:55 PM, bawolff <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've been thinking about that thread, and well it doesn't really have
> a lot of practical advice at first glance, here's some thoughts I came
> up with (these thoughts may be rough arround the edges/unsuitable,
> this is just off the top of my head)
>
> *Synthesis vs OR - should we be doing more to highlight our original
> reporting. Currently we highlight OR by a list on the sidebar of the
> main page, and a little box on the article. Should we do more? In the
> early days of wikinews, We at one point wrote '''Original Reporting'''
> in italics beside any OR article name in the big list of articles on
> the Main Page. perhaps we should revisit that idea. (cf example:
> [[Wikinews:2005/June/18]])
>
> *Someone on the foundation-l thread was comparing a news website to a
> newspaper, and talked about one of the main benifits of a news paper
> is you can see lots of different articles all at once. Perhaps one
> radical main page design would be instead of a list of articles + a
> couple leads, the entire main page is leads that change on each page
> load to different articles or something.
>
> thoughts?
>
>
> -bawolff
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Brian McNeil
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> What can Wikinews take from this and work on?
>>
>>
>>
>> A repeated concern is that we’re always ‘behind the times’ when we do
>> synthesis reports. There’s a degree of truth to that, but taking material
>> from multiple mainstream reports should make our coverage more
>> comprehensive, if albeit a little later.
>>
>>
>>
>> Second, is how can we work with others? Blogs, Indymedia, and so on all
>> generally have a bias and/or axe to grind. This runs counter to NPOV.
>>
>>
>>
>> Third, original reporting. Considering the size of the contributor base I
>> think we do pretty well on this. Are there ways we can attract more people
>> to do investigative work? Should we be organising things to have an online
>> ‘Wikinews Rolodex’ for accredited reporters?
>>
>>
>>
>> Can’t think of anything else from this or the discussion on foundation-l –
>> was surprised that was so reasonable and not “damn Wikinews! We can do news
>> in Wikipedia!”.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> [email protected]
>> Sent: 11 May 2009 23:18
>> To: Wikinews mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] News Corp to charge for newspaper websites
>>
>>
>>
>> Ragesoss, who has written Wikinews OR, has some thoughts about Wikinews on
>> his blog.
>>
>> There is also a live thread about Wikinews on foundation-l.
>>
>> --SVTCobra
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Fred Bauder
>> Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009 5:24 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] News Corp to charge for newspaper websites
>> To: Wikinews mailing list
>>
>>> We'll pay what something is worth, to us. Murdock controls the Wall
>>> Street Journal and The Times, of London. They are both pretty
>>> good. I
>>> paid $20 a year for full access to The New York Times. That is
>>> what I can
>>> imagine paying for a high quality on-line publication. This is
>>> not a
>>> solution for the average paper in trouble, such as The Rocky Mountain
>>> Journal. They may not be worth much to anyone.
>>>
>>> Fred Bauder
>>>
>>> > Good luck to them - somehow i can't imagine most people paying
>>> for it.
>>> >
>>> > -bawolff
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Jon Davis
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Well it would bring new meaning to 'free' in our tag line
>>> "The free
>>> >> news
>>> >> source you can write!"
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 16:53, wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If this idea spreads it could fundamentally change the way
>>> we create
>>> >>> most
>>> >>> of our articles ...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Guardian article:
>>> >>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/may/07/rupert-murdoch-
>>> charging-websites
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