[cross posted like how the original message was cross posted, hopefully thats ok]
To take the unpopular side, I've always gone to the wikipedia news section for different reasons than i go to wikinews. Sometimes I want a news story, sometimes I want an encyclopedia article on a current event. They aren't really the same thing, and i personally like both -bawolff On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:45 PM, cirt tric <[email protected]> wrote: > Wikinews Importer Bot has helped improve the amount of links incoming to > Wikinews' Main Page and to individual Wikinews articles - Perhaps not > directly from en.wikipedia's Main Page itself - but certainly from Portal > pages, and pretty prominently at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Brian McNeil <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Do we want the Wikipedia news people? They'd need to put in a lot more >> effort - at the moment they just make 2-3 sentences from an item that is >> being included in Wikipedia, and their work appears on the 8th most >> popular >> site on the Internet. >> >> Wikinews does okay having a link above the crease on WP's main page. >> Selling >> a link like that on the main page would probably be worth six figures, >> we're >> not capitalising on that. And we cannot order people from Wikipedia to >> work >> on Wikinews to do so. It is like the meta discussion on a global BLP, we >> don't want told what we can and can't write, let alone even risk it. WP >> people involved with their news section would not take kindly to being >> told >> to do a full report on Wikinews. >> >> >> Brian. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason >> Safoutin >> Sent: 25 May 2009 21:53 >> To: Wikinews mailing list >> Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikipedia's 'In the news' >> >> That can already be done easily as it is now. Those who write the news >> on WP can write the news on WP. It should not be a matter of popularity, >> but a matter of getting out the most information, the easiest, quickest >> way possible, with as much *collaboration *as possible. As it is, with >> the contributions on WP for the news, we are not collaborating we are >> competing. It may or may not be an intentional competition but is its >> one. It seems the only time we get any contributors from WP is when they >> do something to piss everyone else off. When the incident is settled, >> they go back to writing news on WP...the same news that they were just >> writing on WN. So I am just lost as to what exactly the point of all >> this would be? Its like taking what WMF stands for and ignoring it >> because something may or may not be as popular as it was before. >> >> -- >> Jason Safoutin >> Wikinews accredited reporter and administrator >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> Brian McNeil wrote: >> > I would agree were Wikinews a far, far more active project. In such >> > circumstances Wikinews would do the news, and it would be filtered to a >> > small section on the Wikipedia main page. >> > >> > >> > Brian. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason >> Safoutin >> > Sent: 25 May 2009 20:01 >> > To: Wikinews mailing list >> > Cc: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikipedia's 'In the news' >> > >> > I have my stance on Wikipedia and the news section. Wikipedia is an >> > online encyclopedia. Not a news site. Whether or not it was around >> > before Wikinews makes no difference. The mere fact that Wikipedia has a >> > news section, makes it almost like Wikinews is to compete with them. >> > There would be no real problem, other than those who would scream about >> > it, to move the Wikipedia news to Wikinews. There would be nothing lost >> > on Wikipedia, given the fact Wikinews and WP are run by the same >> > foundation and are all sister projects. I hear the same argument of >> > "Wikinews is not a reliable news site", but there is no logical reason >> > for Wikipedia to have a news section. It just seems, in my opinion, that >> > having it on Wikipedia, just takes one of the fundamental goals of WMF >> > away: collaboration. >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikinews-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikinews-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > > > -- > Cirt > [email protected] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cirt> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikinews-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > _______________________________________________ Wikinews-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l
