But News is news. And an encyclopedia is not news. I am not saying to force anyone to contribute anywhere, but to contribute to the items where those items are supposed to be. And that means no news on Wikipedia. I mean seriously...we have to tell people all the time we are not Wikipedia. They should be required to do the same. ] Jason
bawolff wrote: > [cross posted like how the original message was cross posted, > hopefully thats ok] > > To take the unpopular side, I've always gone to the wikipedia news > section for different reasons than i go to wikinews. Sometimes I want > a news story, sometimes I want an encyclopedia article on a current > event. They aren't really the same thing, and i personally like both > > -bawolff > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:45 PM, cirt tric <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Wikinews Importer Bot has helped improve the amount of links incoming to >> Wikinews' Main Page and to individual Wikinews articles - Perhaps not >> directly from en.wikipedia's Main Page itself - but certainly from Portal >> pages, and pretty prominently at >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Brian McNeil <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Do we want the Wikipedia news people? They'd need to put in a lot more >>> effort - at the moment they just make 2-3 sentences from an item that is >>> being included in Wikipedia, and their work appears on the 8th most >>> popular >>> site on the Internet. >>> >>> Wikinews does okay having a link above the crease on WP's main page. >>> Selling >>> a link like that on the main page would probably be worth six figures, >>> we're >>> not capitalising on that. And we cannot order people from Wikipedia to >>> work >>> on Wikinews to do so. It is like the meta discussion on a global BLP, we >>> don't want told what we can and can't write, let alone even risk it. WP >>> people involved with their news section would not take kindly to being >>> told >>> to do a full report on Wikinews. >>> >>> >>> Brian. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason >>> Safoutin >>> Sent: 25 May 2009 21:53 >>> To: Wikinews mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikipedia's 'In the news' >>> >>> That can already be done easily as it is now. Those who write the news >>> on WP can write the news on WP. It should not be a matter of popularity, >>> but a matter of getting out the most information, the easiest, quickest >>> way possible, with as much *collaboration *as possible. As it is, with >>> the contributions on WP for the news, we are not collaborating we are >>> competing. It may or may not be an intentional competition but is its >>> one. It seems the only time we get any contributors from WP is when they >>> do something to piss everyone else off. When the incident is settled, >>> they go back to writing news on WP...the same news that they were just >>> writing on WN. So I am just lost as to what exactly the point of all >>> this would be? Its like taking what WMF stands for and ignoring it >>> because something may or may not be as popular as it was before. >>> >>> -- >>> Jason Safoutin >>> Wikinews accredited reporter and administrator >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> Brian McNeil wrote: >>> >>>> I would agree were Wikinews a far, far more active project. In such >>>> circumstances Wikinews would do the news, and it would be filtered to a >>>> small section on the Wikipedia main page. >>>> >>>> >>>> Brian. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason >>>> >>> Safoutin >>> >>>> Sent: 25 May 2009 20:01 >>>> To: Wikinews mailing list >>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikipedia's 'In the news' >>>> >>>> I have my stance on Wikipedia and the news section. Wikipedia is an >>>> online encyclopedia. Not a news site. Whether or not it was around >>>> before Wikinews makes no difference. The mere fact that Wikipedia has a >>>> news section, makes it almost like Wikinews is to compete with them. >>>> There would be no real problem, other than those who would scream about >>>> it, to move the Wikipedia news to Wikinews. There would be nothing lost >>>> on Wikipedia, given the fact Wikinews and WP are run by the same >>>> foundation and are all sister projects. I hear the same argument of >>>> "Wikinews is not a reliable news site", but there is no logical reason >>>> for Wikipedia to have a news section. It just seems, in my opinion, that >>>> having it on Wikipedia, just takes one of the fundamental goals of WMF >>>> away: collaboration. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikinews-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikinews-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l >>> >> >> -- >> Cirt >> [email protected] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cirt> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikinews-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikinews-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > _______________________________________________ Wikinews-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l
