Thanks, that clarifies matters for me. I wasn't aware of #1, though I
guess upon reflection that makes sense.

-Mike

On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 11:07 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Mike.lifeguard
> <mikelifegu...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 15:34 +0100, David Gerard wrote:
> >
> >> Then external site loading can be blocked.
> >
> >
> > Why do we need to block loading from all external sites? If there are
> > specific & problematic ones (like google analytics) then why not block
> > those?
> 
> Because:
> 
> (1) External loading results in an uncontrolled leak of private reader
> and editor information to third parties, in contravention of the
> privacy policy as well as basic ethical operating principles.
> 
> (1a) most external loading script usage will also defeat users choice
> of SSL and leak more information about their browsing to their local
> network. It may also bypass any wikipedia specific anonymization
> proxies they are using to keep their reading habits private.
> 
> (2) External loading produces a runtime dependency on third party
> sites. Some other site goes down and our users experience some kind of
> loss of service.
> 
> (3) The availability of external loading makes Wikimedia a potential
> source of very significant DDOS attacks, intentional or otherwise.
> 
> Thats not to say that there aren't reasons to use remote loading, but
> the potential harms mean that it should probably be a default-deny
> permit-by-exception process rather than the other way around.
> 
> 
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