On 02/15/2010 07:55 PM, Domas Mituzas wrote:
>> Yes, a simple restriction like this tends to create smarter villains
>> rather than less villainy. Filtering on an obvious, easy-to-change
>> characteristic also destroys a useful source of information on who the
>> bad people are, making future abuse prevention efforts harder.
>>      
>
> Thanks for insights.  But no.
>
> We don't use UA as first step of analysis, it was helpful tertiary tool, that 
> put these people into "ignorant or malicious" category.
> If they'd have spoofed their UAs, we'd block the IPs and inform upstreams, as 
> fully malicious behavior.
> If they had nice UA, we might have attempted to contact them or have isolated 
> their workload until the issue is fixed ;-)
>    

I am saying that going forward you have eliminated WMF's ability to use 
a tertiary tool that you agree was helpful.

Having spent a lot of time dealing with abuse early in the Web's 
history, I wouldn't have done it that way. But it's not really my 
problem and you don't appear to be looking for input, so godspeed.

William

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