Hello Danese,

I appreciate your advice and insight to how Wikimedia works.  Neritocracies
can be very nice, as well as the opportunity to work and learn while doing
something that I feel is important.  I may not be incredibly useful at this
point but I suppose that will be the learning part.

Thanks again,
David




On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Danese Cooper <dcoo...@wikimedia.org>wrote:

> Hi David (and Wikitech-l),
>
> You've seen Aryeh's thoughtful answer to your question, but I thought
> I'd expand a bit on the topic of student involvement...
>
> We *love* to have students get involved in Wikimedia engineering, but
> like most open source communities there is a requirement that you "show
> up" and do some good contributing before we start rolling out the red
> carpet much. This is because we are very leanly staffed and don't have a
> lot of spare time to mentor.  My advice is to find an area to contribute
> (looking as Aryeh says at bug lists and other places where wants are
> recorded), ask (and later answer) questions on mail lists and gradually
> work your way up the meritocracy.
>
> We *do* have paid contracts with some of the best student engineers to
> encourage them to continue to contribute during their schooling.  There
> are several of those students on this list.  Many of them have told me
> that contributing to Wikimedia projects is the more interesting than
> most of the work assigned them for coursework, and we really like to see
> that spark of recognition that what we're doing is important, impactful
> work.  All of them started out finding their way into the project and
> gradually building reputation until we felt fairly confident of the
> quality of their work and also that they are rewarding for us to work
> with (eg we like engineers who work well with others).  There is no
> magic shortcut...showing up is the only way to do it.
>
> Cheers,
> Danese Cooper
> CTO, Wikimedia Foundation
>
> On 7/21/10 10:57 AM, David Breneisen wrote:
> > Ahoy there,
> >
> > My name is David Breneisen.  I was referred here by James Alexander.  I'm
> a
> > Comp. Sci. student at George Washington
> > University and have had an interest in open education web development for
> > the last few years.  I thought that I might be able to offer technical
> > services for the Wikiversity development/maintenance while getting some
> > experience working on larger, "real," projects.
> >
> > I also hope to see if it is possible to do a more formal summer
> internship
> > after this school year with Wikimedia, and thought it
> > would be nice to get used to the overall manner in which Wikimedia
> > design/development goes.
> >
> > Regards,
> > David Breneisen
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